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[-] Bye@lemmy.world 143 points 11 months ago

Taiwan is not part of China

[-] pigup@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago
[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Not even Taiwan says that though. ;)

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Nice try, Xi!

[-] drunkenmonkie2@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[-] xor 20 points 11 months ago

acknowledging the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China

The US "acknowledges China's position" on Taiwan, but carefully avoids an explicit official stance on Taiwanese sovereignty.

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[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 119 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh man Hexbear would be so pissed if they could read.

[-] folivora@lemmy.cafe 98 points 11 months ago

Taiwan can use VPN (not restricted) and not against the law. Just saying.

[-] crystal@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago
[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

Against Taiwanese law. Taiwan is an independent nation and its liberty is non-negotiable.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

China coast guard coming to put a big net around your house as we speak.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I can see they're already building small sand atolls off the coast

[-] itsnotits@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

against whose* law

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 46 points 11 months ago

Tankies hate this one weird trick

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Tankies are baned Russia, apparently they are subversive. It seems that no one likes them very much.

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

Weird, it’s almost like they all have something in common…

[-] yokonzo@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Thank god this list isn’t any larger, it’s amazing more governments haven’t tried to ban this tool that ensures people’s freedoms

[-] Knusper@feddit.de 21 points 11 months ago

Thing is, a VPN isn't just some magic tool that lets you view location-restricted content and hides your IP address. It's a relatively basic networking concept.

Essentially, it allows you to connect two or more local networks, i.e. LANs, as if they were one big LAN.
In particular, that means no firewalls in the way, no weird NAT behaviour, no need to deal with public IP addresses and so on.
And it secures the whole communication with encryption + implements a form of authentication, so that you can leave the individual services within the VPN relatively unsecured (assuming you don't separately expose them outside the LAN/VPN).

Or more concretely, my dayjob uses a VPN for the whole home office thing. And I've used VPNs plenty times just as a networking tool in my software developer job. Prohibiting the entire concept of VPNs makes many software solutions impossible or annoying to build, and will cause folks to expose insecure services to the internet.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago

The UK government tried to restrict VPN usage (not that they ever explained what restrict meant in that scenario) but as with most stupid things that the UK government says, everyone just ignored them and then it didn't happen.

I suspect somebody with two brain cells to rub together explain to them the process and since it sounded complicated they gave up with it.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I believe Australia tried to ban encryption. Not just VPNs, but all encryption. Like, bruh good luck with that. Source: trust me bro (im an Australian and therefore too lazy to figure out if this is hyperbole or not)

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[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Just to make it clear, the VPN restriction in Turkey is not enforced, nor hindered. Of course it was put in place as a form of restriction against people's protest organization via Twitter back in 2013 during the Gezi Park protests, but it is not enforced (at least widely, if at all). Even the leading opposition party has an official support for a VPN under their name.

Nevertheless, as far as the map's intent goes, it is an indicator of a dictatorship.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Pictures of playing cards on websites get entire subnets blocked for gambling in Turkey, so I'm surprised to learn they don't enforce rules against VPNs.

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

The same list as countries that you should never step your foot on

[-] thelastknowngod@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

You don't know shit about Turkey apparently.

[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

explain.

turkey is just terrible. arresting tourists over the most simple thing, stupid eedo wife kissing tiny ppl thinking they are children, geocide against armenians and kurds....

go tell me....what NOT to hate about turkey. small dick energy country like "oooh we wann be called turkyie or bharat but not turkey coz we so weak our finance minister has sex with presidents relatives..."

[-] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

They got them cats though

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hey look, it's the bad guys!

EDIT: Not sure why OP downvoted me unless he's a bootlicking authoritarian piece of shit.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

The US doesn't ban VPNs - and it's a worse "bad guy" than all of those countries put together.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 5 points 11 months ago

Textbook example of moral confusion.

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[-] Staiden@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

How does well does Tor work in those countries?

[-] lostme@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Inconsistently and only through relays

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

What do businesses do with remote offices/workers?

[-] loxdogs@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

you can't use VPN were endpoint is used read censored materials. If it's within the country, than OK

[-] thelastknowngod@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Can't speak for most of these places but I'm pretty doubtful in general.

I have no idea what it means for VPNs to be restricted in Turkey for example.. I use them almost every day. Personal, self hosted, commercial, corporate... Both using them while I'm in Turkey to get information from the outside and when I'm outside trying to get information from the inside.

I've never had any issue using them. Like literally ever.

[-] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

https://protonvpn.com/blog/are-vpns-illegal/

In 2016, the Erdogan regime began blocking VPN services and Tor. Now Turkey is using deep packet inspection techniques, similar to China, to detect and block VPN and Tor traffic. 

The use of a VPN connection in Turkey can also mark you out as a person of interest for law enforcement. Despite this, VPN usage in Turkey is quite widespread. 

The website Turkey Blocks monitors internet censorship in Turkey.

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[-] anarchist@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago
[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

you copy pasted this from reddit

it had no sources

it is wrong

you are a very bad person

no one on Lemmy is disputing this map

you are all also bad

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