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IDF says tunnel, outfitted with blast-proof door and firing hole, found alongside booby-trapped vehicle loaded with weapons

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[-] Neato@kbin.social 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If your enemy is using civilians as human shields you still cannot attack the civilians being used. You find better tactics that limit that tactic. Refusing to do so makes you no better than your enemy. Both should be condemned.

For another example this is like a shooter hiding behind a hostage and the cops just shooting the hostage. That's murder.

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

It's just the trolley problem Moral dilemma in a very real and cruel application.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

It's worse than that since in this case there is plenty of time to stop the trolley before it kills anyone.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"plenty of time" is pretty generous considering this whole thing started with an attack which killed over a thousand people.

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

So you expect people not to shoot back when their friends are getting shot at? That's not how people work.

Hamas has engineered a situation to cause as much suffering to their own people as possible - it's great propaganda but truly one of the most horrific betrayals in history.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

This is a military and they are bombing. They should be better then terrorists. Or the world will consider them thus.

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Hamas is a government with an army. Your argument is basically a double standard against the IDF. They have a word for that.

[-] steven@infosec.pub 8 points 2 years ago

Hamas is not really a government at all though. They barely have any support in Gaza. Many years ago some election was held but there was only Hamas to choose from basically. I wouldn't call Hamas in any way representing anyone else but themselves, and not the Palestinian people. Maybe more rather their Arab sponsors.

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It’s not a double standard at all. Where did they say that it was ok for Hamas to harm civilians?

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The lack of criticism against Hamas for using human shields makes it pretty apparent which group they care about holding to standards.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

No one should be surprised by this. It's been well known for a long time that Hamas uses civilian infrastructure to shield their operations, and civilians themselves as human shields.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Are these the same tunnels IDF built when they occupied the area?

[-] machinin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

No, these are "terror tunnels," so they are different! If you put the word "terror" in front of something, it completely changes it.

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