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[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 114 points 10 months ago

not like Google has already tried and abandoned several instant messaging options over the years or anything …

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago

At this point they could pay me per message and I wouldn't use it. I'm not goign to convince people to move just to be rug pulled again.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Move to an open, safe, user-respecting option like signal. Fuck using Google stuff for more than just this reason.

[-] TornadoRex@sh.itjust.works 76 points 10 months ago

Yes that's what Google needs. Another messenger service.

[-] laxmanndhotre@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

"Apple, please 😢, adopt rcs. We failed at our messaging apps😭now we need your help. EU, please tell apple to open up imessage 😟. It's so unfair. If you don't we'll add instant messaging to Gmail"

Most miserable company ever.

[-] pizzawithdirt@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

What does this have anything to do with RCS?

[-] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Open standard

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 75 points 10 months ago
[-] evatronic@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago

Seventh time's the charm.

[-] danhab99@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

I'm so confident that Google is just reskinning the same messaging app

[-] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

it's not even IM this time, it's just email with a different input

[-] Z3R0C00l@artemis.camp 73 points 10 months ago

2 months later…

This week in technology, Google abandons yet another project. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[-] VerseAndVermin@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

This and many other reasons not to use their products. I think more people would appreciate paying $5 or so a month for email that works without ads or invasions of privacy, in addition to avoiding the constant adjustments to Google-style ****ery.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 60 points 10 months ago

finallly what google has been missing, an instant messenger application/protocol.

thanks google for really finding a gap and filling a need.

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 45 points 10 months ago

Google Talk flashbacks anyone?

[-] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Google Talk, Google Chat, Google Huddle... Some of them even integrated with Gmail.

Seems like a dumb idea to try again, when already established chat systems that won't vanish in a year exist.

[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago

Also Allo, I used to use that app, it was very clean, but no one I talked to heard of it

[-] Trashboat 9 points 10 months ago

I feel like everyone who knew enough to know about Allo was also acutely aware that Google would probably kill it, and it would really suck to move friends to an app that’s just gonna join the graveyard with the dozen others

[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

Makes sense, I just got my first android and that happen to be the app that Google was promoting heavily at the time

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago
[-] stown@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Hangouts still works. I believe it's their longest running chat app.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Really thought they killed it many years ago.

[-] singularity@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Google Wave?

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

I'm so fucking tired of companies trying to "innovative." Just give me my shitty government provided email service already so I can ignore it like I do snail mail

[-] wabafee@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago

Another potential to the google graveyard.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago

They don’t even have a desktop app for gmail chat. Whatever they do, they’ll abandon.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Just what a successful Google service needs, to be associated with the failure that is their messaging platform attempts.

[-] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

This is a feature available in outlook desktop application at least for Mac

The irony is of course that Gmail did used to be essentially an instant messenger until Google decided in their wisdom that on Android you should not be notified immediately you receive a message

[-] vodkasolution@feddit.it 20 points 10 months ago

Will they succeed in making even Gmail fail?
I can already see memes with the Gmail icon and the obvious "task failed successfully"

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Assuming this is aimed at business use: good, but too little too late.

Tacking on chat features isn't going to bring businesses back from Slack and Teams. The ship has sailed. Email exists as a lowest common denominator and a way for lead generators to harass people who don't actually make procurement decisions.

Email won't die but it's on indefinite LTS.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 10 months ago

hahah thats exactly what this is. they got caught with their pants down on slack and now theyll never get market share.

[-] vinniep@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The bit that kills me is that “make Google Chat not suck” doesn’t seem to be in the list of options for addressing this problem at all. I work for a company that uses GSuite and chat is universally loathed with a bunch of Slack instances running around the company, both sanctioned and unsanctioned. If they spent time working to improve chat, the momentum of being a GSuite company would carry the rest of the weight here. It doesn’t have to be better than Slack, just closer.

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[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

What do you mean email is on life support?

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I mean that it's no longer actively being improved as a competitor to other forms of communication. Chat has taken over the world in both personal and business settings.

It's not going to die because it's the de facto default when nothing else is available, but it's also not going to rise up and compete with modern chat solutions which are already ten times as feature rich and continuing to evolve.

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's not meant to, I think it is perfect for the role it fills. I see it as thriving at what it set out to do, neither on life support nor struggling to maintain its achieved identity.

Always trying to improve things is often a very real problem. Email, like so many other things should have been, is best left as is.

(PS I did not downvote your comment)

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm not arguing that it's meant to, I'm arguing that Google's attempts to add features to it to try and compete as a chat operations solution is futile.

Email being on LTS is fine, as I said, it'll never go away. That doesn't mean we have to dress it up in chat bubbles and emoji reactions under the pretense that it's something more than that.

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

We are in full agreement then :)

[-] tslnox@reddthat.com 10 points 10 months ago

XMPP/Jabber says hello. Remember how they used it but didn't want to allow you to use another Jabber client?

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago

They won't support markdown for another 10 years and invent their own thing

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Last month the popular webmail app shipped an emoji reactions bar in the mobile app, where a single tap would send a new email with your emoji response.

Now, a wild new UI experiment spotted by Android Police goes another step further: a quick reply bar that looks just like instant messaging input.

Rather than the usual input block you get for writing paragraphs of overly formal text, this new Gmail experiment has a one-line input bar at the bottom for replies.

An "expand" button will presumably launch the usual compose interface.

So far, this seems to be an extremely rare test that only one person has gotten, so it will not necessarily roll out to everyone.

Given the recent emoji launch, though, Gmail certainly seems jealous of its instant-messaging cousins.


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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

What's the problem with that? You can reply to any mail at your convenient time. It is not a telephone call.

[-] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The only reason I use Gmail at this point is because it's the only Android email client that has an actually nice, modern looking UI, other apps like K9 mail don't really look as nice as it.

It's annoying how they try to integrate Google chat into the app as well.

[-] pretelethal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

anyone remember googles inbox app? now that was basically perfect and had no ads but they killed it

[-] crazyfuckincoder@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

I know it might not look very modern but K9 mail is the most clutter free no bs email client I've ever used.

[-] Outsider9042@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

So… deltachat?

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