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[-] Thalion@lemmy.ca 229 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure the actual CP played a bigger role in the sentencing

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is a scary, clickbaity headline meant to invoke a negative response about AI. AI is a tool, like a computer or pipe wrench. It can be used for good or bad.

The sicko got what he deserved, but the AI bit is rather over-the-top.

[-] livus@kbin.social 97 points 1 year ago

The part that freaks me out is more that he was in an influential position in children's lives and he was making images of the specific children who were his patients.

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 53 points 1 year ago

This is unfortunately not that uncommon. Pedos often work in child focused jobs. Very disturbing, and that's why background checks are important in those fields.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 year ago

Not only pedos, in general sadistic people tend to try and get jobs which would give them the feeling of power over someone, and not all of them can be dictators, warlords, just politicians, even lowly prison guards or policemen, also cowardice is a factor. So - child-related jobs.

But, to be frank, I'm not sure background checks are going to do that much good. People of this kind tend to bunch together, help each other, and can either get past the radar rather easy or utilize these checks to discredit anybody who'd be a threat to them.

It's a complex matter.

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[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly, it's not the AI bit, it's the rest of the story about how this dude was in a position of power to exploit children (and did so) that's just fucking sick.

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[-] Daxtron2@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 year ago

He used a web based stable diffusion to generate CP. Absolute genius level move 😂

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago

Things to never say before committing a crime:

"Wait, let me sign in with my Google account first."

[-] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 18 points 1 year ago

Our legal system basically relies on the fact that criminals are that stupid.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

People have been caught making bomb threats using their own phones. Some people are just not bright enough to be able to survive in this world.

It's for people like them that you have to have signs everywhere that say things like, don't stick your hand in the crushy grindy place, this hot water is hot, and don't drink bleach you'll die.

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago

You would be surprised how many absolutely idiotic Pedos are out there

[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago

People in general really. Some of the stuff your average person does on the internet and their devices absolutely stumps me, and I'm not even that tech savvy.

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 69 points 1 year ago

They should become a Republican speaker. Then they'll get a TON of support from the Protect The Children crowd!

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 38 points 1 year ago

Or a pastor so the church can relocate them to a fresh batch of victims.

[-] ARk@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago
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[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago

Wtaf are these comments.

Go home you sick fucks.

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago
[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

Blocking any/all users of the "it's just art" and the "no kids were actually used so it's not child pornography" crowds.

Christ, the comments just kept getting worse.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean for people that are providing a moral defense of this? Yeah, no, fuck them into the sun.

But from a legal perspective, that's kind of the problem isn't it? Because no kids are involved in the actual production of the images, this creates a huge legal question - isn't this constitutionally protected in countries that have Freedom of Expression/Speech?

I mean this is obviously vile and this person is a danger to children... but would this be illegal in the USA and Canada and other countries that have freedoms that make it very difficult to prosecute this kind of speech?

There's also the wrinkle that it's being made of real people. Not just that it's kids in general, but real, actual, specific kids. Most countries have some form of "use of likeness" protections, but that's essentially making this into a copyright dispute, and a pretty grey one at that.

[-] jagungal@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Not sure what laws the states or Canada have, but it's considered child pornography if it's a depiction of CSA, regardless of whether it's an adult acting, or cartoons, or AI. I suspect at least some states in the US have similar laws.

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"As a child psychiatrist, Tatum knew the damaging, long-lasting impact sexual exploitation has on the wellbeing of victimized children," said US Attorney Dena J.

The trial evidence cited by the government includes a secretly-made recording of a minor (a cousin) undressing and showering, and other videos of children participating in sex acts.

"Additionally, trial evidence also established that Tatum used AI to digitally alter clothed images of minors making them sexually explicit," prosecutors said.

"Specifically, trial evidence showed that Tatum used a web-based artificial intelligence application to alter images of clothed minors into child pornography."

In prepared remarks [PDF] delivered at a US Senate subcommittee hearing earlier this year, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said, "GPT-4 is 82 percent less likely to respond to requests for disallowed content compared to GPT-3.5, and we use a robust combination of human and automated review processes to monitor for misuse.

A recent report from investigative organization Balkan Insight says groups like Thorn have been supporting CSAM detection legislation to make online content scanning compulsory in part because they provide that service.


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