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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by mogul@lemmy.world to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

I have kids that I raise, they are great kids, I love them to death but if someone thinks kids aren't a burden (of any sort) than they're lying.

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[-] kevinbacon@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago

Who tf thinks they aren't a burden, how is this an unpopular opinion?

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Trust me, there are people who think it's a sin to use the word "burden" when speaking of kids. They are insane IMO

[-] soloner@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Sounds like they have the unpopular opinion

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I actually did expect this much "positivity" to my post lol. I guess I've spent too much time in a Precious Moments figurine store.

[-] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 16 points 11 months ago

There's so much stigma around this sort of thing. It's getting better, but the mindset that children are a gift and parents should be constantly grateful for that gift is still very prevalent.

The reality is that whilst children are absolutely incredible, life affirming and all that good stuff...an awful lot of being a parent is frankly, horrible.

[-] Johandea@feddit.nu 7 points 11 months ago

People who believes in sin are insane. Pay them no mind

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] SharkAttak@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

"Babees are such miracles!"

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Until they barf in your mouth or piss all over you while changing a diaper lol.

I blame the Hallmark channel.

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[-] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

Today on wildly popular opinion

[-] foyrkopp@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago
[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

I kinda wish it would expand on the fact that for some people, the constant care and all that is not for them, and doesn't make it "a good deal" Other than that it's a great summary, coming from someone that doesn't want any.

[-] justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Anyone who does NOT think kids are a burden either doesn't have kids or doesn't give a sh*t about raising them right. If you are an actually responsible adult and parent, and you intend to give your kids all the attention, care and love they demand and deserve, then it WILL be taxing. It WILL eat up your time and energy for years to come. You WILL have sleepless nights, and unexpected challenges. You WILL be exhausted, frustrated and defeated at times.

The difference is that good parents feel like that tradeoff is worth it. That your beloved family / children matter most, even tho they are a burden. This isn't an "either/or" situation where struggling automatically means that you can't be happy about the struggle. Children can be the light of your life AND the most annoying thing in the universe at the same time, and a good parent will still love them whatever happens.

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

slow clap and wipes a tear

[-] Aermis@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Literally standing in my kitchen right now reading this at 645am, awake since 4 because my sick 2 year old has been crying and screaming non stop, my wife in bed upstairs with our 2 day old new born, and I'm covered in peanut butter trying to make a nutritious lunch for my 5 year old for school. I have to wake her up soon to get her started. Make eggs for breakfast.

Her booster seat isn't fitting in the middle seat between my sons car seat and infant newborn car seat. So I have to fix that before we leave. My son is most likely drawing on the walls in the entertainment room.

And before 9 I need to feed the chickens and relieve my wife from her sleepless night with a newborn.

Burden is an understatement. Having a sore back is a burden. Having kids is a dynamic lifestyle change. And while sometimes I imagine not having kids and how amazing it would be to be free from that lifestyle, it always comes to the same conclusion: I wouldn't exchange my family life for anything. My children are me and I wouldn't remove them as much as I wouldn't remove my back because it was sore.

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

First of all, keep up the good work, it sounds like you're an awesome dad and husband my man. I never wanted kids but I now have 6, some of them put me through some shit but I wouldn't trade any of it for a child-free life.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

How do you end up with 6 kids if you never wanted any?

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

A crazy amount of things, dem ass and titties, a partner you think you'd be together with forever, a partner that didn't believe in abortions, having one kid and thinking it wasn't so bad, lying to myself that it'd be no more than 2, did I mention dem ass and titties? Those can be so persuasive when the little guy is doing the thinking.

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[-] 01011@monero.town 24 points 11 months ago

Children ARE a burden but entitled parents are a bigger burden.

[-] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

What a stupid post. No one thinks kids aren't a burden.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

Sounds like you just don't know as many different types of people as you think you do. There are plenty of people who drone on endlessly about how children are nothing but a blessing, how perfect parenthood is, and a bunch of other lies that they may or may not actually believe.

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Than you don't know my ex who almost popped a vein when I said "the burden of the kids is on my shoulders" and she started making like it was blasphemous to think or say that about kids.

[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 6 points 11 months ago

She should post her opinion here.

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Yea it's beginning to seem like she should be the one here. Who would have thought so many sane people used social media still lol

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 17 points 11 months ago

I live them to death

Is that a typo or the unpopular part?

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[-] rynzcycle@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

I went to a Nerd Night where a positive psychologist shared about PERMA, a break down of the pillars of being happy: Positive Emotion, Engagement, Relationships, Meaning, and Accomplishment.

Her take on kids (based on her research) was that P,E,R, and A definitely take a hit, but parents consistently had the highest happines when it came to Meaning in their life. Overall advice on the question of "Do kids make you more happy than no kids?" was "It really depends on the person."

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[-] waz@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

If I don't put gas in my car it won't move. Fueling my car is a burden, but generally I think it is worth it.

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[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Idk how unpopular this is. Everyone I've ever talked to said that children are a burden. Of course they are. It's hard work to grow plant, lol, and these are whole people. The acronym DINK exists for a reason. That said, it's a worthwhile burden. I love being a parent.

Who have you met that said raising kids isn't a burden?

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

They exists, they are the people who wants kids and can't have them, the people who think kids can do no wrong, and then there's my ex-wife who actually is burden by our kids when she has them but doesn't want to say they are a burden because it would make her look bad lol

[-] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 11 points 11 months ago

Yup.

I've got two (5,1). I absolutely adore them both, but I'd be lying if I said that having kids hasn't made my life significantly harder, my mental health significantly worse and my sense of self significantly weaker.

[-] mogul@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

One thing I can say is enjoy it while it lasts LOL!

When they get older you miss those days when they were small and easy to understand. Those teenage years, hell.

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[-] Crystalizts@startrek.website 11 points 11 months ago
[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

Amen, fellow misanthropist.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

The benefit of kids is that on average they become less of a burden over time. meanwhile adults, especially of certain generations klinging to the means of production, power and denying political change necessary to keep the earth livable, are just becoming more of a fucking burden for everyone else every god damn year and they also act all smug about it.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

klinging

Apparently you think life is just donkey Kong country?

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

than they are lying

? Really? Jesus fuck

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[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I think burden is the wrong word. It implies an overall negative effect on life, like saying that playing a sport is a burden because you have to dedicate time and energy to it. Yes, my daughter does take up a huge part of my life and I've had to give up hobbies in order to make time for her.

Responsibility and commitment, yes.

Burden, no.

[-] Guest_User@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Webster has "duty, responsibility" listed as one of the definitions of burden. In that sense I think they are spot on. However, other people's interpretation of the word can obviously vary

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[-] Enzy@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Solution: don't have kids

Solution two: use protection

[-] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I'm convinced that having kids causes a brain chemistry change that makes parents willing to deal with their children. Otherwise, the majority of people would never have kids or abandon them shortly after birth.

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[-] Meho_Nohome@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

It depends on how self centered you are. It's like that song "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" by The Hollies. It applies to children too.

The road is long With many a winding turn That leads us to who knows where? Who knows where? But I'm strong Strong enough to carry him He ain't heavy, he's my brother

So on we go His welfare is my concern No burden is he to bear We'll get there For I know He would not encumber me He ain't heavy, he's my brother If I'm laden at all I'm laden with sadness That everyone's heart Isn't filled with the gladness Of love for one another

It's a long, long road From which there is no return While we're on the way to there Why not share? And the load Doesn't weigh me down at all He ain't heavy, he's my brother

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[-] aeharding@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

What app are you using for Lemmy? Your post url references itself which is really weird.

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