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We're giving Lemmy a try: Welcome to !privacyguides@lemmy.one (www.reddit.com)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by jonah@lemmy.one to c/privacyguides@lemmy.one

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With Reddit's encroaching IPO and their poorly planned API changes, we need a place to keep up with privacy topics that isn't tied to an anti-privacy, centralized ~~sinking ship~~ site.

Our forum running Discourse has been a great place to discuss website changes and answer questions, but it doesn't quite provide the same experience as Reddit does for things like sharing news, so we're trying something new:

!privacyguides@lemmy.one is our new ActivityPub-enabled community for sharing links and other information from the privacy and security realm. Welcome!

We're going to be trying out posting to this community for a few months to decide if we want this to replace or coexist with the r/privacyguides subreddit, so we'll see how it goes. If you want this to succeed, stay active! Our mission is to become the most inviting and friendly place to discuss privacy and security on the fediverse 😎

How do I join the Privacy Guides community on Lemmy?

You can join a few different ways:

On Kbin.social, a Lemmy alternative with a more Reddit-like UI and instant registrations. I didn't like Kbin from a hosting perspective because of some missing features, but for just browsing communities and joining ours it's a great option: https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one
On Lemmy.one, this is the server which hosts the Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, and also the server that I admin myself. You are welcome to create an account, but it might take up to 24 hours for your account to be approved.
On another Lemmy instance: You can join the community by entering [!privacyguides@lemmy.one](/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one) in the search box on your instance. There are plenty of servers you could join, or you could host your own relatively easily if you're familiar with self-hosting.
On another ActivityPub instance: You can also probably join by entering @privacyguides@lemmy.one or https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides in the search box of the ActivityPub software you use, although Mastodon does not seem to pull in posts from Lemmy communities properly in my limited testing, so YMMV.

Verification post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/

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[-] FrogLessEdit@lemmy.one 20 points 2 years ago

This looks pretty good so far, and I'm glad to be here and pseudo-anonymous!

Absolute newbie here so bare with me: I'm seeing a couple features I'm used to from reddit that aren't present. Where do we go to learn more about Lemmy? Is there anywhere to put feature requests? Mods available to be added? My old experience with stuff like this was back in the Invision Power Board and phpBB days.

I see threaded replies can't get collapsed in this thread - that was useful for browsing. on reddit.

Also no downvoting of comments, just an upvote button?

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You might want to check out !lemmy_support@lemmy.ml for asking questions, and !lemmy@lemmy.ml for reporting bugs and requesting features :)

Mods available to be added?

Not sure what you're asking here? About creating communities (subreddit equivalent) and adding mods for them, see my comment here: https://lemmy.one/comment/536

You can collapse comments, it's just not really intuitive, click this button:

No downvoting on lemmy.one:

Downvotes are disabled on this instance, because it is a very small community. If you see something against the rules, report it. If you see something you don’t like, go find something you do like and upvote that instead :)

I may consider changing this in the future.

If you have more questions about this instance, lemmy.one, generally, you can also ask at !meta.

[-] bug@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago

Do you think disabling downvoting will work? While it does encourage people to just downvote things that are already downvoted, the alternative is that you have no way to mark bad/lazy/rude content that isn't actually worth reporting, and you end up in the Facebook-like situation of low-effort stuff filling the space. Hopefully this won't happen while the community is small, but that will probably change eventually!

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago

Don't know! We'll evaluate it as we go, I don't have an issue with enabling them if it's clear that not having them is problematic, but I also don't think people need a negative indicator to know not to engage with low-quality content.

[-] bug@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

Do you know if it's possible to hide all upvote/downvote scores on comments? I've often wondered if that would kerb the "groupthink" as people wouldn't be pre-influenced by the number, but it would still allow sorting by popular and filtering-out of mass-downvoted comments.

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

It's not a configurable option. Maybe with a custom interface change, but I'm not convinced that making changes to Lemmy.one that remote users don't experience is the best move.

[-] Adda@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy does not have this feature as of now. You could create an issue for this feature on Lemmy GitHub. Alternatively, you can solve this by locally hiding the elements in the UI that display score with something like UO's element picker easily after only a minute of figuring it out.

[-] FrogLessEdit@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Awesome dude, thank you. This was very helpful. I was curious if we could deploy mods and stuff into communities but perhaps I'll spin up my own instance and give it a go to learn more about it.

Edit: By mods, I mean similar to some of the modificationss I deployed to old forums back in the day when I was an Admin. Guess it probably doesn't work like that here.

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

Oh, modifications. Yeah, no way to do anything like that as far as I know, to preserve consistency across different instances.

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[-] strudel6242@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago

Awesome. Love the site, and I'm glad to see Lemmy getting some more recognition; always seemed like Lemmy was missing in Fediverse discussions

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago

I mentioned Lemmy on Mastodon and some people noted some controversy surrounding the "main" instances. I don't know exactly what concerned people, but I definitely think that more bigger, possibly saner instances like beehaw.org and—hopefully—now lemmy.one can make a better first impression on users.

Also, federation with non-Lemmy platforms seems to be much better than it was last time I looked at this place 6-12 months or so ago.

[-] Mersampa@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mentioned Lemmy on Mastodon and some people noted some controversy surrounding the "main" instances. I don't know exactly what concerned people

One of, if not the most active lemmy instance is a Marxist, pro-Russian war, pro-CCP, pro-North Korea community. When I signed up on lemmy.ml a while back, it was almost all you saw.

The problem with reddit alternatives is that, until now, the only people leaving reddit were the ones kicked off. They needed new homes and they found them in unmoderated communities they could host themselves, like lemmy.

Some of us have been waiting for some time for more "average" redditors to make the move, so this exodus is like Christmas coming early.

[-] gzrrt@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Know if there's any way to block entire servers when they're as toxic and low-quality as the one you mentioned? So far it seems like the only way is to browse 'all communities' and get rid of them one by one

[-] Adda@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

An instance can block federation with another instance (an instance admin must do this on the instance server), but for you as a user of an instance, you cannot block the whole server. What I did is exactly what you describe. This way, I have only the content I am interested in my post feed. It takes a while, but it serves the purpose.

[-] JackFromWisconsin@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago

You can only block instances / servers when you're the admin of the website. Regular users can't individually block like that. You might want to join an instance that blocks those toxic and low quality servers instead of lemmy.ml.

[-] uthredii@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Yep, a lot of people (including me) moved to beehaw for that reason.

[-] ThreeHopsAhead@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Hope this gains some traction. We really need to move away from Reddit.

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Absolutely!

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[-] voynich@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago

Looking good so far. Last time I looked at Lemmy, it wasn't so good. Hopefully this time will be a much better experience!

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago

I think it's improved significantly in the last 6 months, and I'm enjoying using it here so far!

[-] voynich@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

I was referring more to the community. I remember most, if not all, of the listed instances being incredibly left wing. Not that I have a huge problem with that by itself, but I believe anyone should be able to get their opinions out there. Or, it could be that the userbase of Lemmy just happens to fall under those parameters.

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago

Ah right, as the developers are self-described communists I imagine that had something to do with who was drawn to Lemmy initially, but I definitely think it all evens out as more people join. I haven't seen much in the way of politics in general on some of the newer big servers like Beehaw.org, and we don't really have political communities hosted locally on lemmy.one at all.

[-] cavemeat@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah, welcome! I quite liked the subreddit, and I'm very glad to see it here.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Welcome to the lemmyverse!

[-] mordekaiq89@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

I like the idea of moving away from Reddit as well. Is there any way to have something like an XMPP version of a subreddit?

[-] 1011@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

Will give it a try. Hopefully more and more peoples will use it. And that we also get some very decent clients for Android / iOS.

[-] JurassicPork@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

Joined from the link from the subreddit 😁 this is looking mighty slick!! Glad to be accepted here and look forward to the future of privacy guides here!!

[-] Forcen@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

There seems to be some bugs with federation here and there.. for example there are lots of interesting communities you can subscribe to, here are some of them: https://lemmy.one/communities/listing_type/All/page/1

These will all work and they would show up on your front page if you enabled your front page to work like that in your settings. However some are mastodon accounts and who knows what else, it's not super clear.

https://lemmy.ml/communities and https://beehaw.org/communities has some nice communities that I might wanna subscribe to but and sometimes you can just search for [!firefox@lemmy.ml](/c/firefox@lemmy.ml) locally and it works. like this:

https://lemmy.one/c/firefox@lemmy.ml

and you would think this should work: https://lemmy.one/c/gaming@beehaw.org

but 404.. can't search for it either.

Maybe that instance disabled federation in some way? Maybe this instance is too new so the other one has to allow it? it's unclear.

Lemmy seems real cool and it should work fine for local discussion just like any subreddit but federation might be sorta fuzzy..

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

That one you linked does work (now, apparently). I’ve noticed search can just be slow the first time you search for something on a remote instance, usually when you refresh and search again it shows up.

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[-] Kuro@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

Found you just now. Good to see communities move over :) happy to have a privacy focused one now here.

[-] tmpod@lemmy.pt 5 points 2 years ago

Welcome to the fediverse!
Lemmy has a lot of potential, and with a bit more momentum it can get even better :D

[-] karce@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

How do you think moving to Lemmy compares to using something like i2p to host/serve content? I suppose putting Lemmy on top of i2p would work given more development. I just think it would be awesome to have a mix of privacy enhancing tools like i2p combined with pseudo anonymous accounts like the fediverse offers.

[-] admin@monero.house 4 points 2 years ago

Welcome to lemmy, would you perhaps like to federate with monero.house?

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

I can't even access monero.house in my browser, I assumed the instance was offline 👀

I can see your comment here so I assume it is working. I don't think we have an instance allowlist here so we should federate with anyone who isn't on the denylist, and monero.house isn't blocked by us.

[-] pe1uca@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

uBlock origin has monero.house in its phishing blocklist .-.

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh yeah, NextDNS is blocking it in their "Threat Intelligence Feeds" as well, that was my problem.

@admin@monero.house maybe you should look into https://blocklist-tools.developerdan.com/entries/search?q=monero.house

[-] admin@monero.house 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah apparently the domain was used by some russian crypto scam in 2018 so its blocked by a ton of stuff. I've tried to get it cleaned but eventhough many vendors took it off their lists, others just ignore any requests.

[-] meso@asbestos.cafe 3 points 2 years ago

@jonah you have an apple profile picture, what does this have to do with privacy?

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

You don’t understand what Lemmy has to do with privacy? 🤡

[-] meso@asbestos.cafe 6 points 2 years ago

@jonah no I'm asking how are you in position to talk about privacy when you actively use and embrace Apple?

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[-] Allen@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

This whole Lemmy thing is very confusing to me. Hopefully it's something I can get used to relatively quickly.

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

Just ask if you have any questions!

[-] dragonfornicator@partizle.com 3 points 2 years ago

First.

But seriously, i am really curious how this whole shebang will turn out. Some subs will go dark for 2 days, which will probably result in not very much. But what about the exodus when the third party launchers will go down. How many will just suck it up and use the official app? How many will actually migrate? Will reddit kneel to the community? Time will tell. Grab some popcorn and enjoy the show!

[-] opt9@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago

Glad you made the move. It is contradictory for any privacy focused community to be hosted on Reddit with all the spying and censorship that goes on there. People just have to get up and leave. Same with Google, facebook, etc. Stop whining and move is what I say.

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