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So, i want to give a try to usenet world.

I have the *Arr setup with torrents now, and works great, but why not experiment a bit further?

So many questions...

First of all: will i find italian contents? Or its all US/English stuff?

I got an account on NZBFind, bit thats only an indexer right? I need also to find an access provider to usenet? If so, which access provider do you recomend? I want somewhere i can test for a few weeks or a month or so before committing, so no credit card upfront.

Update: trough techradar got an offer on newshosting for 5.99/mo with 3 monts free. Paid with PayPal then cancelled the recurrent immediately (so paid 0 so far). But at the moment not yet sure i made it working in my *Arr setup properly.

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[-] thisusernameistaken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago

i dont think any service is going to give you free weeks or a month with no strings attached. if they did everybody would use them and not pay. you can just buy 1 unlimited month of frugal usenet for 5 bucks (not a subscription) and call it good.

[-] kaleid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Keep an eye on black friday deals, they are usually the best around. You may get lifetime deals on the cheap from indexers, cheap blocks/subs from server providers. It's a steep, but rewarding learning curve. Can't help you with Italian content though.

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[-] nomadic@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

I use Astraweb because I can buy 1000GB at a time that doesn't expire so I avoid the monthly fees. Works well for me as I don't do a high volume and it removes any feeling of pressure to use it more than I need.

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[-] maxprime@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I don’t think you’ll find many providers that offer free trials, although I stand to be corrected. But some will accept crypto so if you don’t want to give your credit card details you could try that.

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] Majoof@aussie.zone 34 points 2 years ago

Faster, encrypted, no need to seed. Yep, sure is terrible.

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Ssshhhh

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[-] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

Depends on your view. Some see it as a way to preserve media that could otherwise be gone forever. Some see it as a reasonable price to pay instead of paying 15 different companies hundreds per month. Others don't mind supporting the individuals and small groups who run the servers but don't want to support large corporations.

[-] spaceaape@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

He means whats the point in paying for usenet when p2p torrenting is free. And from my understanding its for people without enough bandwidth to seed.

[-] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

And there's no dead torrents. I could have probably added that too

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago

it's a service issue. if it was $5/month for every streaming service including music and current tv, would you pay for that service? how many hoops or hassles would you be willing to tolerate for that price point and access?

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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago

if you're paying for a vpn, then paying for usenet is no different.

IF YOU ARE JUST OUT THERE RAWDOGGING TORRENTS IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2023 then you are a fucking legend.

myself, i don't pay for either, but i do use xdcc still and i use i2p which supports torrenting.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

90% of my collection came from torrents, but I got tired of receiving copyright claims. (no vpn)

Switched to usenet mostly for that, but the other thing is the speed; torrents are typically 1-2mbps maybe 3 if you're lucky and if you're not it can take days to complete. Usenet gives me a consistent 60mbps always, limited by my write speed. If it's not ready to watch within 20min of being requested, it's because it couldn't be found.

The day I switched from 17odd torrent indexers to a single usenet indexer, I triggered a mass search through radarr+sonarr and grabbed 2.3tb of media they had failed to find previously with torrents, completed downloading in under 36hrs.

[-] Majoof@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago

Even so you still have to seed, meet lame ratio rules, hope that old torrents are still seeded etc.

Torrents certainly still have their place, but Usenet is just generally superior in all aspects, and for a few dollars a month the service it provides is unparalleled.

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm tempted as well, but I don't like to leave a payment trail from me to them. And if you say "bitcoin", it's not anonymous. Monero is a damn pain in the ass to get for what I've seen. Can I just send them cash in an envelope?

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Grab a disposable/reloadable credit card.

Or use privacy.com

[-] thisusernameistaken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

blocknews, frugal usenet and usenetnow take cash in the mail, an option at checkout. maybe others will but they dont make it obvious so you would have to contact them directly. but honestly i wouldnt worry aboutr using your card. paying for usenet access is just as legal as paying for isp access.

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

meh, they are all US based, I'll try to find one EU based that allows cash payments. And I do worry. Remember, only the paranoids survive! :D But thanks for the info, I think I've found something suitable.

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[-] 520@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Bitcoin is anonymous insofar as you make sure the wallet itself can't be traced back to you. In other words it's all about how you operate it

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I appreciate that, but it would be another part of my infra that I have to manage. I have enough stuff to worry about already, if I can just send some money in an envelope would save me a lot of time!