@DerisionConsulting "it's not really all that tragic"

It's actually the classical definition of tragedy - an awful result that comes from the protagonist's hubris

@sendingmath @WytchStar

I find the 19yo kid’s death tragic. He was probably coerced into going. Everyone else, I quite agree with you.

Right?! There's innumerable dead adrenaline junkies maimed and killed all the time doing something that has a high mortality rate, by design!

Everyone's just on pins and needles about this particular one because he's among the global oppressor class.

But just like so many self-serving cultural views our oligarchs have pushed on us, a peasant with a death wish is crazy, a wealthy person with a death wish is eccentric.

To be fair, though, it wasn’t the water that got him, it was all that pressure. Lots of commas

Never was any regulation. It operated only in international waters.

Exactly this. The reality is his submersible was dangerously unsafe, it’s a bit of a misconception that it was a ticking time bomb because of fatigue- that is a thing related to metallic (crystalline )structures and stress cycles-as a composite, CF doesn’t have that.

What Cameron was getting at is that with titanium and steel, it’s can be modeled very easily- and because steel has a relatively high tolerance before fatiguenstarts… they literally can engineer around it and make parts that effectively don’t have fatigue (unlike aluminum, where every elastic bend degrades it’s structure.)

The problem with composites is that they are very difficult to model. You degrade the polymer (that is epoxy) and it weakens the hull. You drop the sub on the deck, get a delaminated bit. Whatever, once there’s damage to the structure it’s done for.

CF bikes for example, used in professional bike racing are retired after a crash because there’s no way to examine delaminating off the edge, which makes them extremely dangerous to ride,

The kind of people unwilling to have 3rd party certification to do much as validate your pressure hill is thick enough is unlikely to scrap an entire custom pressure hill because some idiot screwed the monitor into it. (Or dropped it. Or noticed that there was some delam around the hatch or whatever else.)

And carbon fiber is still a relatively new material. Finding out how it failed might mean learning new ways to make it stronger.

They also need to analyze it to figure out why it failed to see if they can press any charges against the company.

Typical media hype. Figures they'd ignore basic science for a few clicks.

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Resisting the urge to post the expected comment here.