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submitted 19 hours ago by NightOps@nord.pub to c/australia@aussie.zone

I mean, since the last time I've visited: it seems like no one ever carries it. I prefer it because CC charge additional fees (which end up making the item cost more) I have a small rant about that: STOP RIPPING OFF PEOPLE WITH THOSE SURCHARGES?! (It should be 0 rather than 1%) as it may seem trivial, they add up overtime. Are stores allowed to refuse cash payments outright despite them being legal tender?

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[-] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

I get cash when I know I'm going to be out at a place that has a discount for cash, otherwise tend not to use it for convenience. Since becoming full-time disabled convenience has been an increasing priority as I don't have capacity to do much out. Getting cash can mean needing a support worker take me to a bank too, and as NDIS is getting cut I probably will be doing without that discount to save worker time for more important things, and just using a card to save time.

There are fee-less credit cards available for students and pensioners. I have the pensioner one and only have to pay any credit card fees when making an international purchase (usually games or other downloaded/online content). There are also other arrangements where you can use a debit card without fees or credit cards that exempt you from fees every month if you have enough "points" or whatever.

You should know that the term "legal tender" does not mean "businesses must accept cash payment" - this is from the RBA:

However although transactions are to be in Australian currency unless otherwise agreed or specified, and Australian currency has legal tender status, Australian banknotes and coins do not necessarily have to be used in transactions and refusal to accept payment in legal tender banknotes and coins is not unlawful.

If a provider of goods or services specifies other means of payment prior to the contract, then there is usually no obligation for legal tender to be accepted as payment.

[-] eureka@aussie.zone 5 points 3 hours ago

I carry it, and apart from a couple of specific, non-essential places, I've never been denied when using it. Businesses are often happy to have it.

One place I visit only accepts cash and has an ATM inside their store. Another (cafe) is like 5% off for cash (not much given the scale but adds up) so I bring exact change.

[-] BeefHouse@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

One of my local Vietnamese takeaway joints offers 10% discount for cash... So I carry cash now 😜

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 22 points 17 hours ago

The surcharges suck, and in another month they won't be allowed, but it's not as though everything is going to be cheaper in the long run.

What we want is for the list price to be the final price, instead of this plus this plus that nonsense.

Yes, by carrying cash things might be 1% cheaper, but most people are happy to pay an extra 1% for the convenience of not carrying cash.

That said, as a card-only person for decades, I think I'm old and grumpy enough to start carrying cash again just because I don't like my bank being all up in my stuff.

[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago

Yes, by carrying cash things might be 1% cheaper, but most people are happy to pay an extra 1% for the convenience of not carrying cash.

Many stores agree. In the U.S., there's a debate about whether cities should require private businesses to accept cash, and the only reason why it's a debate is because some stores are going cashless already. It saves them the labor of counting cash and depositing it at a bank, and it reduces the risk of mistakes, lost/misplaced money, theft/robbery, etc.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

The metadata of being able to associate a transaction with an individual is much more valuable.

A business dealing with Cash is a legal liability because a transaction cannot be associated with an individual, especially if it technology.

Burner phones aren’t a thing in Australia. A lot of car dealers refuse to take cash payments due to laundering; it is legally safer for them to illegally reject cash than for them to get embroiled in more serious illegal activity.

Counterfeiting is also a concern as technology enables higher quality fake currency.

[-] Ilandar@lemmy.today 14 points 17 hours ago

Are stores allowed to refuse cash payments outright despite them being legal tender?

Yes. Only supermarkets and petrol stations are required by law to accept cash, and only for transactions $500 or less between 7 AM and 9 PM.

https://www.accc.gov.au/business/selling-products-and-services/payment-methods#toc-cash

[-] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

Also, many people have misconceptions about what "legal tender" means. "Legal tender" does not mean "businesses must accept cash payment":

However although transactions are to be in Australian currency unless otherwise agreed or specified, and Australian currency has legal tender status, Australian banknotes and coins do not necessarily have to be used in transactions and refusal to accept payment in legal tender banknotes and coins is not unlawful.

If a provider of goods or services specifies other means of payment prior to the contract, then there is usually no obligation for legal tender to be accepted as payment.

[-] tombruzzo@aussie.zone 10 points 16 hours ago

I take the time to get cash out once a week and use it at smaller places. You can save anywhere between 1-10% paying cash at the right places

[-] NightOps@nord.pub 5 points 15 hours ago

When I visited as a tourist, why do ATMs only disperse $50 bills upon withdrawing large sums (i.e. $500) when Australia clearly has a $100 bill? Why does it exist when barely anyone uses it for regular transactions?

[-] No1@aussie.zone 5 points 5 hours ago

Because it's not only you making a withdrawal, and banks have thousands of ATMs and over 40 years of data to work out what to stack their ATMs with

[-] eureka@aussie.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

And also, I've had to wait for a teller just to divide into smaller notes for exact change, much quicker and more respectful, especially in businesses which aren't retail

[-] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago
[-] NightOps@nord.pub 2 points 3 hours ago

I think casino ATMs disperse them, but people's paycheck isn't handed out in cash (unless their payroll has issues) as a friend of mine got handed $3000 with just x30 $100 bills from his job as their system wasn't working at the time, usually they pay people via EFT.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

ATMs are stocked according to likelihood of withdrawl. More people pull out fiddies than hundreds of dollars

[-] tombruzzo@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

For some reason ATMs here only do $20s and $50s. You'd have to go into the bank or a supermarket to get $100 notes.

Places would prefer $20s anyway. So I get out an amount that means I'll get a couple like $180 so it's a good mix

[-] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Good article here on trends that answers some of your questions: https://theconversation.com/why-cash-has-made-an-unexpected-comeback-in-australia-new-study-281029

After two decades of declining cash use, Australians are handing over more banknotes and coins for regular purchases again, a new survey by the Reserve Bank has found.

The decline in the use of physical money had accelerated during the COVID pandemic, but bottomed out between 2022 and 2025.

One decision that may stabilise the use of cash is that since January 2026 the federal government has mandated that most grocery stores and petrol stations must continue to accept cash.

[-] brisk@aussie.zone 5 points 18 hours ago
[-] No1@aussie.zone 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No, you mean everything below $10 increases in price by 10%,and everything above $10 goes up by 2-10%.

It's a free price bump to every retailer.

Hello, October inflation! The RBA meetings in November and December will be fascinating!

[-] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 6 points 14 hours ago

That doesn’t sound like it’s good news. That’s the way we do it in Canada and it just means that people paying cash are subsidizing the people using cards. Now everyone needs to use cards so you don’t miss out on “points” and costs go up even more.

[-] brisk@aussie.zone 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It's good news for OP who is railing against surcharges.

Having and using a debit card is functionally mandatory in Australia, so I don't see anything better short of the government legislating GNU Taler acceptance.

[-] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Ya, but it’s just a hidden surcharge (per my understanding). That sounds worse.

Edit: not disagreeing. I think publicly owned payment systems that don’t charge more than operating costs are absolutely necessary (in Canada too).

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