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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by AuroraSine@lemmy.ml to c/fdroid@lemmy.ml

Peace be with you, F-Droid Community. 🌹

As many probably know, Google will block Android starting 2027.

Here is my hope: Google has shot itself in the foot with this Darth Vader move, because many People who loves privacy will now switch to de-googled systems, because ( Since to my knowledge), the blockade won't affect those systems.

So this is just my Openion and my HOPE.

What's your take on this?

And I kindly say to all developers: Please don't register in Google.

There are so many people using de-googled systems now, including myself. Please keep going for us, and four you too. Please

Best wishes from Germany 🌹

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[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Well, since I never took time to master phone magic, now they are going to give me a push. Thanks, I guess

[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

How is this going to work for the companies that have internal only apps like time clocks or schedulers. Can they pay the fee and have their apps hidden from the PlayStore or are they all fucked?

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago
[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe i freaked out a bit too early. Still going to move away from Google Android personally but the business i work for is way too large to even attempt.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

because many People who loves privacy

almost 12 of us ... i jest but seriously, everyone using Apple and >90% of Android users don't care. Google knows this and they just bang on about this being best for Android users to ameliorate any concerns around governance issues.

Even many supposed staunch, so called privacy advocates, will complain they can't change because banking or some such, so they stick with the status quo as every minor inconvenience is seen as an insurmountable wall.

So i expect some bloviating initially and then acceptance. In 5 years, no shits given (headphone jack, expandable storage saw the same sort of thing)

tl;dr press x for doubt (x)

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I was doing Android development recently and apparently the official SDK builds needed to build the app aren't FOSS, and actually FOSS versions are difficult to get. I still can't wait until Linux phones are a thing, Android is such a shitshow nowadays and even GrapheneOS is still at the mercy of Google's ecosystem. (also still no aarch64-linux support for the build tools either)

[-] dragospirvu75@lemmy.ml 14 points 14 hours ago

Motorola will release a phone with GrapheneOS in 2027, it would be a good pick.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Ironically they're the top government surveillance camera manufacturer where I live on deflock

[-] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

Don't forget about the new automatic Google play services check that app developers can enable with a single click on build. That automatically blocks the app from working on any degoogled ROM

[-] Newhere@lemmy.ml 8 points 20 hours ago

So, did I understood correctly that just getting pixel with GrapheneOS is way out?

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 6 points 18 hours ago

Sooooo the way out, is to pay Google a thousand dollars for their phone......

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 7 points 18 hours ago

If that's a bother you could get it secondhand

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago

Still props up Google's phone business.

[-] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yes. Bonus if you get it used just make sure it's completely unlocked. A carrier phone is not unlocked and is a pain in be butt to get unlocked. I can't remember what instance it's on but there's a graphene community.

Edit it's !grapheneos@lemmy.ml I know some instances don't interact with .ML though

[-] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

So, did I understood correctly that just getting pixel with GrapheneOS is way out?

I can't really say anything about that, sorry. I'm not familiar with GrapheneOS or Google Pixel. As far as I know, Play Services can apparently be installed in a sandbox?.... but I didn't quite get it either. So I can't say whether the system will be affected by Google's rules. Sorry I can't help further.

[-] BeerStainedBunny 2 points 19 hours ago

Is there an alternative to Android and iOS in the US? I'm trying to degoogle but what other phones are there?

[-] SaintNectar@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago
[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

Doesn't that only support phones made specifically by Google?

[-] SaintNectar@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

Yes but you buy a second hand phone so you don't give money to these rats.

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago

Others are coming from what I've heard, but yeah, currently only Pixels have the required hardware. It's still an awesome OS if you can find a decent second hand pixel.

[-] vega@veganism.social 1 points 17 hours ago

@ITGuyLevi @brown567
e/os supported by any google pixel

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

Whether in the US or elsewhere, no, unless you're willing to make major concessions (like not having banking apps)

The best you can do is a de-googled android, but even that is getting tricky with some apps

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

Can you advertise f-droid in an app on play store? Or offer free features on a link that teaches how to f-droid yourself?

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 17 hours ago

Fdroid is exactly what they're about to block

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

Not necessarily and there are ways to install it waiting a day, then it won't be enforced on a per app basis like they plan.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I tried to open up an issue (and did a PR) suggesting a developer strike as a tactic (IE open source devs adding their names to a list to promise to remove our apps from google play if developer ID goes through) on the KeepAndroidOpen repo. As a dev whose made many android apps and have them on both f-droid and google play, I thought this would mean something.

The maintainers of that repo have been ignoring me to death since April. I was told by the maintainer that the project was "leaderless", but in reality it seems they're very opposed to a developer strike, otherwise my PR would've gotten more attention.

[-] vas@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

If you or somebody will create this initiative, please create a post about it on Lemmy! (Or ping me here if you'll remember.) It's a good initiative! Worth the attention. I'd also be curious to know which developers have committed to the strike and which haven't.

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

Is there a change to an app in Google TOCs that can get folk to get app from F-droid?

For example: "Free features for this app only available on play. New features and enhancements available (paid or) for free through f-droid." Or if you cannot openly advertise in the app, "Visit our website to get enhanced features and updates" with clear documentation on how to install and permit f-droid and get app through there.

That way, big app devs can create moves to f-droid, normalising it and chipping away at googles power. The more apps, the more legimate f-droid seems to normies.

Ideally done as soon before switchover as possible. Even reach out to content creators.

It moves from protest, to protest and solution.

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Must be a US based/themed online "protest"

"We want something to change"

"We aren't going to do anything drastic for the change"

"Nothing changed? Oh well!"

They almost always seem like a controlled opposition set up to make people believe, gain support (artificially at first to deter competeting protests that are more radical), but once it gets popular it doesn't accomplish anything, won't listen to ideas, input and feedback from the community and fold as soon as they aren't required.

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