I don't wear hats cos am busy using debian

What comes default on fedora KDE spin

Too often I see desktops where the only two graphical apps are some ultralight terminal and Mozilla. Why do they want to suffer?

Honestly yes. A few years ago when I was still getting into linux I'd customize the shit out of everything, wm with lengthy configuration, mostly terminal apps, "minimal" ui with custom made themes, and all that.

My current fedora system is almost default Sway with a few convienent shortcuts and a few tweaks, using GUIs where it makes sense or simply because I just want something nice. I just don't have time or the need for something so customized. Defaults are good.

Heck, I'm even considering switching to Plasma once I get a better PC (gonna need to sell a kidney or two for that to happen tho), since default Sway still requires considerable tweaking and there's a few quirks I just don't want to deal with.

I have too sneezed with a nosebleed, those are spurious allegations

I've heard the jokes about rm -rf /. I've never met anybody who's taken it seriously and nuked their system.

That command is legendary. It's one of the first bits of computer lore I ever learned, about 10 years before I ever touched Linux. In fact, at that time I knew two things about Linux: it's a free OS and don't do rm -rf /.

Of course you should do some research first, so that you're sure that you know what a command does, but if you're getting it from a forum like Stack Overflow or even reddit, you can be reasonably sure that if the commenter was trying to destroy your computer they'd get downvoted and one of the other commenters would warn you about it. Don't treat Linux like it's some kind of minefield that you have to tiptoe around. It isn't conducive to learning.

I think the real issue with the modern terminal, and Linux in general, is that we are using tools designed for programmers and system admins, who are expected to know exactly what they are doing, to build and run servers and treating them like they are end user tools. My grandmother was perfectly happy using a terminal for the only computer she owned because the tools it provided were simple and had those built in protections in a way that bash never will be.

Fuck FreeDOS

All my homies use Plan9

I would say we should burn the light-mode heritics, but they've already done it to their own eyes.

yea as much as like using the command line, I'm having a hard time remembering all the options required, especially with things i use rarely. the discoverability is just better in GUIs

plus: most people learn graphically (visually) much easier than text-based. at least for me, it's much easier to build an intuition of something if i get a graphical display of the contents in a directory. that's why i always ls -alh every new directory that i enter, before i do anything else. for many people, it's better to use GUI file explorer because you also get image previews etc. but the same concept also applies to other issues:

like, if you want to configure various hardware on your machine, you open the settings app and get many icons that you can click on. meanwhile, on the terminal, there's no clear list of things that you can even configure.

Heck yeah they did! I remember going over to my grandmothers house to use Word on her computer running DOS. She used that computer to keep her personal budget, do the accounting for her office supply business, write letters, and the newsletters for her church and social clubs. No gui, just a command line and some things that we would now call a TUI.

It’s still somewhat early days, but you might want to check out https://v-os.dev/

I’ve also been playing with Haiku on an old laptop and it’s pretty decent as a daily driver for the basics.

A regular user will never in a million years create a script.