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[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 138 points 1 year ago

No. Stop.

This is the definition of interrupting your enemy when they're making a mistake.

Let them kill windows 10, I have atleast 5 friends ready to switch to linux when Windows 10 hits EOL.

[-] Sabin10@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

As a gamer, proton/lutris still isn't quite to the point that I am ready to make the jump. It's very close though and I'm going to make the switch probably in the next 24 months.

[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 56 points 1 year ago

Typically, imo, most people who aren't ready to jump to Linux are there because their top couple of games are ruled by arrogant devs/publishers who balk at the idea of ticking an "enable proton compatibility" checkbox with their anticheat.

From what I've seen Proton has hit a quality of compatibility that the games will just run, and typically better than Windows. If it doesn't run it's usually because it's too new and proton needs a patch, or the devs/publishers did the aforementioned "no, i won't tick the checkbox, it's too hard." bullshit.

Basically, if your waiting on a game to be supported for proton, it may need to wait until Linux adoption hits around 20 percent before the devs/publishers get that bullshit idea out of their head.

[-] Shake747@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago

For me it's that a lot of the open source options to replace the Adobe and MS Office suites just always fall short. Trouble shooting Linux issues feels like hell after a lifetime of learning how to troubleshoot Windows issues.

Adobe is the bane of my existence for many reasons, and I jump ship wherever I can. But GIMP doesn't really compare to Photoshop. Inkscape doesn't work well against illustrator - the only open source artistic creation software I swear by is blender. Davinci resolve isnt bad compared to premier pro though - but not After Effects.

MS office isn't great either (why does Ms word operate like it exists in a separate instance of reality that's forever stuck in the 90s?!)

Microsoft captured the corporate world and compatibility with the off brand stuff is a huge issue

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[-] elint@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

Are you kidding? I made the jump a month ago and get better performance across the board gaming with proton/lutris than I did with windows.

[-] HC4L@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

It's not about performance but compatibility. Such as certain anti-cheat software in online games.

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 year ago

Man, I'm just going to say it... I'm sick of all the Linux people saying it's the solution to all problems in computing. Can we not talk about anything else here on Lemmy? This article is about Windows.

[-] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 28 points 1 year ago

I mean, this is platform which runs on Linux and embodies the same spirit which drives Linux forward - the collaborative power of opensource software. Is shouldn't come as a surprise that there's a heavy skew of Linux and opensource enthusiasts here. If you're sick of all the Linux talk here, feel free to move to a propriety forum, perhaps one with a red alien logo.

This article is about Windows.

The article is about Window 10 becoming EOL, and given how many people are put off by Windows 11, suggesting Linux as an alternative is a reasonable comment, IMO. Feel free to argue otherwise if you feel so strong against it.

[-] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Sorry but the answer is Linux. It's got great support for devices and is open source. If adobe and a few other companies would port their software for Linux there'd honestly be no reason to use Windows or Mac except for a few that prefer it.

If bsd was more popular than the answer would be that. We just need to have an open source OS as the norm

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[-] graymess@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

100%. I'm very happy for the people in the Linux community who have collectively supported a free and open source operating system that is effectively as good or better than the two leading OSs with massive billion dollar corporations behind them. That's unfathomably impressive, deserving of all this praise and, of course, should have wider adoption.

However

I've spent my entire life on Windows, my professional career on Mac OS, and the last dozen or so years with my phones running Android. I absolutely do not have the patience and free time to become fluent in another fucking operating system. And I've tried. On at least two occasions, I've attempted to run a media server on Linux. The experience was utterly fucking miserable and made me want to give up on technology and live in the woods. I have no doubt that I'd have a different outcome with better resources or more time to learn properly, but I'm done. Hopefully the successes of Linux drive change for the better in the other two. Linux doesn't need 100% adoption to make an impact on the way Microsoft and Apple develop their own systems.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

You do know that Android is Linux right?

[-] denshirenji@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

There is a lot to unpack, but you know exactly what they meant. The operating system people refer to as Linux or GNU/Linux or whatever is not the same thing as Android; if, under the hood, it has an older version of the Linux kernel. There is no command line required on an android phone for one.

Although, you are technically correct. The best kind.

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[-] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 71 points 1 year ago

Based on my conversations with my clients, it seems like the 2025 date is going to result in the greatest Linuxing of all time.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

as an avid multi-decades linux desktop user who has worked at a company with people in it before, i believe there is no way in fuck that this is true.

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[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

The year of the Linux desktop is upon us. The prophecy has been foretold by the sages of the code. A new dawn is on the horizon. A new era of freedom an power approaches as more and more disks are cleansed by the mighty forces set free by Stallmann and Torvalds. No more shall the users be enslaved by proprietary software and restrictive licenses.

The Year of the Linux Desktop is upon us, and nothing can stop it.

[-] weedwhacking@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

Everyone knows Microsoft OSs are tick-tock anyway. The failed 11 will be superseded by a well received 12, and the cycle will continue. Can’t kill 10 until 12 is fully accepted. Like 10 and 7 before it.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

I find this funny as I remember the first 5 years of Windows 10 be like everyone hates it because it's not Windows 7

[-] BudgieMania@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

Well it was replacing the tile-silliness of Windows 8, any OS that booted would receive some goodwill in comparison

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't count on that, if the rumor mill of windows 12 being a subscription model ends up true, it will be recieved far worse than 11 did.

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[-] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

failed 11

By what metric (other than clickbaity tech publication headlines)?

Every Windows release, even including “the good ones”, my repair shop has been inundated with requests to go back or post-upgrade troubleshooting work.

We’ve had none of that since 11’s release. The only botched upgrades were due to underlying hardware conditions and everyone else has been neutral at worst.

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[-] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 year ago

As someone once told , windows 10 would be that last version of windows.(I like to keep it that way , at least for me😅).

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 year ago

That someone was Microsoft 😆.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't really care. Once this PC can't run Windows 10 anymore, it's getting Mint.

I've recently come to realize all of the games I actually like to play, run just fine on Linux. YMMV, of course.

[-] Senex@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

My next computer will be Mint and open source programs.

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[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

I remember Microsoft saying that Windows 10 would be the last version they would ever release and everything moving forward would just be iteration and improvement. Knew that was a lie immediately.

[-] Metz@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Microsoft never said that. Its a myth that refuses to die. A single developer on a conference mentioned something as a sidenote, the press misinterpreted it and the internet took it and ran with it.

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[-] krayj@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

My system significantly exceeds all the performance requirements for Win11, but it doesn't have the Trusted Platform Module 2.0...and therefore cannot run Windows 11. It's disappointing that my system can run circles around a lot of newer devices but can't upgrade because it's running on an older motherboard. It's dumb that Microsoft made TPM 2.0 a deal-breaking requirement for Win11.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Apparently you can get around that with a registry hack that tells the installer the machine has it. Not that I’d want windows 11 anyway…

[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

IIRC if you use Rufus to make your installer USB it has a preset for Win11 with no TPM. Again, not that you'd want to go out of your way to install it but doing it that way is pretty seamless.

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[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago

Never mind the millions of PCs that don’t want to downgrade to this garbage.

[-] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We had petitions for everything, Windows Phone, you name it a decade ago. That won’t do jack shit unless it somehow comes with some large sum of money (how much? who knows) for Microsoft or some bean counter decides “hmm, maybe the environment shouldn’t take another for the team” and gets the company to change course before they are canned.

In the meantime, let’s continue to plot our off-ramps.

[-] SirStumps@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I've been using Windows 11 for a while now and honestly I don't understand the hate. Who needs personalized functionality? Who needs to be able to move their bar from screen to screen? I do. I'm moving to Linux.

[-] LogicalSpace@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I use Ubuntu for pretty much everything, but I would prefer to use 10 in the unfortunate event that I have to boot into Windows.

[-] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago

I'm not buying another windows OS.

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[-] dlok@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Not supporting intel 7th gen and back seemed pretty strong handed, even now they're still decent processors.

And I know there are work-arounds but not for the average consumer

[-] MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Hopefully by 2025 gaming in Linux will be greatly improved even more. Until then I'll keep using Windows 10 and I'll start saving for an AMD card

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[-] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

"No"

\ - MS

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Trouble is, to upgrade I'd need to do a mobo upgrade, and I'm not doing another mobo upgrade any time soon.

Windows 10 wasn't great compared to 7, but I bit the bullet on that one because security updates are essential these days, and my workplace is microsoft-centric.

Windows 10s death is going to force a lot of poorer folks to consider alternatives - and let's be honest, it's going to be Linux. The majority of hardware out there in the world can't run 11, let alone a proposed 12.

[-] pycorax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Windows 10s death is going to force a lot of poorer folks to consider alternatives - and let’s be honest, it’s going to be Linux. The majority of hardware out there in the world can’t run 11, let alone a proposed 12.

For the more technically strong people, I can see that happening but I very much doubt the general public would do that. They probably don't even know what Linux is.

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[-] BudgieMania@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

The Windows XP/Vista story repeated to the last letter, damn

Windows 11 will be relegated to a footnote in Wikipedia

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[-] 0x0@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

I'll stick to XP, 7 and 10 in my VMs then.

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[-] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Well, looks like it may be time to try and see what Linux is all about. Any good recommendations for a relatively Out of the Box experience?

I mostly just browse the web and play games (both single player and multiplayer, mostly AAA but also the occasional indie). On occasion, I also like to do some video editing in Davinci Resolve.

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