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submitted 5 days ago by grue@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/58022486

Interesting article from 2018. But nothing has changed at all. Even the electric cars I see on the road are huge.

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[-] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 24 points 5 days ago
[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

countries like the UK, France, Italy and Germany there are now around 5 vehicles for every 10 people

That's a weird way to say 1 car for every 2 people.

[-] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 days ago

I say not less cars, but no cars. We need to move towards societies where we arent dependent on the asphalt industry.

We need to learn how to live slow again.

zero carz🦔

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 days ago

No cars is a bit too idealistic, but agree on ending the general dependency on them. Cars is not just speed, but also access. And car infractructure is the same as for buses, emergency vehicles, taxis etc. And I don't think we should necessarily end those.

But yeah, I still chant for "no cars" as the idealistic general goal.

[-] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago

but we dont need cars. just because we are dependent on them today, doesnt mean we are depent on them in the future. Dont let todays lets dictate our future lets.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago

Have you been to literally any rural area ever?

[-] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

lived in Østhusvik for 18 years. don't know if you count that as rural.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago

So my moving company should use trains? I'm not sure if you're just naive or something else. Of course we don't "need" cars. The same way we don't need Internet, or electricity.

[-] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

I dont believe in trains. we dont need fast transport. and we dont need internet. electricity is useful, but our demands should not rely on industry.

one of the greatest characteristics of humanity is our ability to adapt. we should play to this strength.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago

OK, so you want to go live in the wilderness. That was always allowed.

[-] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

society should embrace the wilderness. we can do this through democratic confederalism as envisioned by Abdullah Öcalan.

[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago

The odd taxi is ok for unusual routes

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

So many cities could be made completely car-free.

Just force people to park near the edge and use alternative transport from there. This would give city centers the space to be greener and safer to live in.

Especially in Europe this should be fairly easy. Some cities are pushing towards this too. Not sure if American cities are suited sadly enough, as many of them are built with cars in mind.

[-] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 10 points 5 days ago

Provide better public options. It takes me 25 minutes to get to work by car and 75 minutes by public. Fuck that.

[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Most likely I'll live the rest of my life not owning a car, using public transport, mainly.

If most of the humans were decent I would be absolutely furious that people still use cars to get to work.

Most humans are absolutely disgusting. Smoking right under the no smoking sign at the stop, blasting TikToks, shitty (or, in fairness, any kind of) music from their phone speakers, getting on the tube without a mask while coughing, sneezing at everyone in the crowded carriage, taking up two seats just because why not either by placing their stuff on the seat or just manspreading, having phone conversations on loudspeakers... I could go on forever.

I will keep using public transport till I kick the bucket, but FUCK I totally understand everyone who prefers to have their own private space.

[-] Switorik@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Im curious what people here would take to work. A 20 minute drive or an hour bike ride. Buses don't exist near me nor will they. What are my options. It's too hot, the weather is unpredictable, and im not spending an hour one way to work.

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchetti%27s_constant

People would in general change either their living place or place of work to be about a half hour's trip. That would take some time sure, but people mostly aren't going to bike an hour every day for many of the same reasons they don't drive an hour every day.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago

If you say there will never be buses near you, I presume you don't live in a city. If you did, I don't see why the city creating a bus line there wouldn't be possible.

For folks commuting from outside the city to inside, the best is a big car park outside the city next to a commuter train station. Make it frequent and reliable.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 4 days ago

In a well designed urban society, cars will be the slowest mode of transport.

Trust me bro, we just need 1 lane only. Just one lane for cars, bro. And 6 lanes in each direction for busses and trains and bicycles.

[-] tyranny@crazypeople.online 2 points 4 days ago

i dont want people commuting to jobs everyday that are 10km away. i dont want that to be typical. just my thoughts on the matter

[-] tunetardis@piefed.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In all honesty, I would probably drive in your situation, though I might invest in a folding bike/e-bike I can toss in the trunk. It's crazy how small those things are now! They had some Urtopias at the local bike shop last time I swung by, and I swear they fold up smaller than most adult scooters I've seen.

Fwiw my commute is about 35 min by regular bike, 25 by e-bike, 15 by car if the traffic is light (that's a big if), or around 45 by bus. E-bike is my preferred option.

[-] MrRandom@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago
[-] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

"Genghis Khan, who established the world's largest contiguous empire between the 13th and 14th centuries, has been branded the 'greenest invader' in history as his murderous invasion actually helped scrub about 700million tonnes of carbon from the atmosphere. According to a new research, the ruthless Mongol warrior killed so many people during his bloody invasions that huge swathes of cultivated land depopulated and returned to forest."

https://www.wwf.org.co/en/?199285/Genghis-Khan---the-greenest-invader-in-history

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago

Yes. And this is easy to solve with decreased birth rates. People die naturally and populations reduce significantly on their own on fairly short periods of time

[-] faizanyay@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

we know its you bro 😭😭😭

[-] inari@piefed.zip 3 points 5 days ago
[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Reposting in same community deserves downvotes, at least mine.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Reposting in the same community doesn't just deserve downvotes, it violates rule 5 and thus deserves removal.

But to the best of my knowledge, this article was never posted in this community before. !fuckcars@lemmy.world is not !fuck_cars@lemmy.ml or !fuckcars@lemmy.ca.

If that's incorrect, please cite the URL of the previous copy.

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