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[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In Taoist and Zen art, there will be landscape paintings and a tiny human off in a corner. Unimportant. Small. Not the subject. BECAUSE THE WORLD ISN'T FOR US. We're just in it.

Why would the mountains under the ocean be "for anyone?"

[-] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

That type of art can help break self centered / egotistical thinking. But human experience is as much apart of this world as anything else. What would be nice is if we started treating everything as sich. Our tendency to other ourselves instead of viewing everything as a whole is what lends to domination of the planet.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Very much my point. When we realize that we're part of the landscape and not its owners, we can all live more harmoniously. The world existed before us and will persist after we're gone. No amount of toxic optimism can change that.

What we do with ourselves in this world and the perspective we view it from helps us move through it more fluidly.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

See “Wanderer Above The Sea Of Fog”, the Casper David-Friedrich painting imitated a billion times over in Instagram alone. Western thought places ourselves central and above nature, as though conquering. Curiously, this may have to do with cultures which developed cultivating wheat rather than rice because of the more communal nature of the latter.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Western thought places ourselves central and above nature, as though conquering.

Precisely this. Think about our speech. "I conquered that mountain." "Columbus 'discovered' the Americas." etc., etc. It's a certainty that the mountain was unaffected by someone reaching the summit and that the Americas existed before (and were populated by people, not to mention found by other Euros) before Colón arrived.

I almost included it initially, but the rabbit hole is deep.

Speaking of holes, one of my favorite phrases is "dig holes in your own backyard." It's another Eastern idea whereby we explore the things close to us and learn more about where you live. Too many of us forget how rewarding that can be.

[-] esc@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

Because not everyone subscribes for Taoist/Zen philosophy?

Why wouldn't they be for someone?

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Some things exist with or without your consent. You tell me why they're "for" you.

[-] NightFantom@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

Who decides where to stop counting for mountain size? Why do we stop at sea level for above-sea-level mountains, but go to whatever the deepest "nearby" spot is for undersea mountains? Who decides what nearby is? For mountains near the sea, why not go down further? It's all a scam!

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

the tallest mountain on earth measured from skirt to peak is Mauna Kea, ~10km

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Big enough to escape the dark and become a beloved cultural centerpiece.

[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Being tall just for the love of the game.

[-] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I'm doubtful there's actually any place where a mountain taller than Everest that doesn't break the surface exists, most of the ocean just isn't that deep

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