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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by mrpants@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works
  • No server operator needs to federate with you.
  • No server operator needs to tolerate things they don't want on their instance.
  • No user of an instance needs to personally curate their own extensive never ending blocklist of users and channels they don't want to see.

Quit your pseudo-intellectual whining and choose what instance(s) work for you. If you think regularly interacting with shit content somehow helps you stay out of an echo chamber then go ahead and make a second account on those garbage instances full of hateful people. Then you can read both the decent servers and the trash ones and be the fedora wearing ackshually right fair and balanced uber nerd you always wanted to be.

Edit: The huge number of upvotes on this post compared to the low numbers on the whiney imposers' posts is proof of exactly where this community places its priorities.

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[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Nerds snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

[-] crowlemo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The problem is that this and other places were sold as reddit alternatives and they're actually worse than Reddit in that, on Reddit , with one account you could choose what to see and when (akin to controlling your own federation). If you didn't like a mod team you could choose another sub easily. Same account. You could keep looking at the same place too.

Federation at the admin of an instance level means all that has a high cost (account per instance), you don't get to see all at once due to the need to switch accounts and communities are fragmented.

There's also a very clear thin skinned authoritarian attitude that seems to promote bullying against any type of dissent while claiming some sort of moral authority.

Lemmy is broken as a Reddit replacement. By not having the onus on the user but on the admin, and seeing the attitudes from the recommended major instances, it has little chance to generate diverse or interesting content and communities. Just very narrow and small, toe the line places with poor discoverability.

Shame.

Edit: in Reddit communities were above mods. In Lemmy, it's potentially/in practice whiny Mods complaining about anyone in their community that doesn't fully agree with them and having the power to completely ruin their account. Much worse.

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[-] Azz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

If you think regularly interacting with shit content somehow helps you stay out of an echo chamber then go ahead and make a second account on those garbage instances full of hateful people.

So Beehaw has defederated from your home instance, are you implying that Beehaw is the "garbage instances full of hateful people"? Or are you saying that sh.itjust.works is and you tip your fedora to them for recognising it?

Defederation is a powerful tool which will no doubt be abused, especially with lemmy in it's infancy. I just hope that it isn't abused to the point of completely fracturing the lemmyverse, further confusing new users until they just give up and make an account on the "meaverse" (or whatever facebook endup calling it)

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[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

We have both sides here, Lemmygrad for far-left people, Beehaw for far-right.

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[-] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago
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