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[-] Photonic@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago

Calling other people’s opinions stupid is rich coming from the country that elected Donald Trump…

Twice…

[-] Jiral@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

You should readjust your irony detector.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Europeans should be self aware enough to recognize that the most devastating criticism of Trump are direct comparisons to historic European tyrants. And forget about Hitler or Mussolini. Donald Trump at his worst can't even measure up to Leopold II.

That is an insane argument. You are saying anybody whose country went through a genocidal dictator can't criticize Trump because he's not as bad yet? WTF?

[-] irate944@piefed.social 42 points 1 month ago

Never mind that in those examples that they gave, none of them were elected like Trump was:

  • Hitler lost the election for president; but was later appointed as chancellor by the guy that won after political pressure;

  • Mussolini was appointed by the king after threats of paramilitary force;

  • Leopold II was a hereditary monarch

Sorry US bros. I like you and I love you depending on the days. But just like the French will never live down the white flag meme, you will never live down that you elected a pedophile fascist TWICE.

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[-] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 month ago

Ah yes. A whataboutism will make everything right. Maybe we should have sent some smarter guys back in 1492

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Very slight difference to note. Leopold II was alive 150 years ago. Trump is alive today.

[-] Krelis_@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also, Leopold II wasn't elected once. Let alone twice

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[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago

As a Brit I fucking hate the royal family and their soft power and their wealth, but I'd argue that Trump has more of both and is heading for more than a royal has had in a Western country in living memory.

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[-] Sergio@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago

My preferred comparison is to Napoleon III. It's not a perfect match, but provides a lot of comparisons: the attack on freedoms, the incompetent political appointees, the unwise foreign wars, the puffed-up overconfidence and the sheer mediocrity...

[-] jasoman@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago

EU is just on a slower path to fascism.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Slower path? They are waiting to reboot their original fascism.

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[-] MBech@feddit.dk 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well yes, because of US and russian interference.

[-] Catoblepas 73 points 1 month ago

Innocent Europeans would NEVER do a fascism without a wicked Other forcing them to do it!

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 62 points 1 month ago

Girls, girls. You're all pretty. It's capitalists who are dragging the whole world towards fascism, don't get it twisted with nationality

[-] irate944@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago

Idk mate… They kinda ugly tbh

[-] glups@piefed.social 23 points 1 month ago
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[-] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

Well, US interference is so blatant and obnoxious that is actually counterproductive. Trump getting elected stopped a few far right movements, and others lost momentum.

Paying 2000 people in St petersburg to shit post non stop about immigration, works. Sending vance to deliver a speech, doesn't.

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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago

Not if we stop the fash parties.

[-] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You're probably not gonna stop the facists.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I didn't use the royal we.

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[-] sundray@lemmus.org 47 points 1 month ago

I would never clap back a Europeans criticizing the USA. It would be impolite, and they're usually right anyway. I'd love to move to the EU someday too; but it won't happen because the only thing they hate more than USians are brown Muslims 😔.

[-] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 month ago

That's all us euros would expect from a nation comprised of the rest of the world's rejects.

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 17 points 1 month ago

hey friend, we take the good with the bad. most of us like it that way. some of us have forgotten the dream this country was built on. usually it happens when they get too much money. truth is, it's always just been the ones with money making sure the rest of us stay divided. 🤷‍♂️

it's the ones with money that give a shit about borders and that foment hate between their lessers to make sure we never get it together.

12,000 years of this shit, at least.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

world's rejects

Yep, that's us ;)

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago
[-] VoteNixon2016 16 points 1 month ago

Counter-counterpoint

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is that the gold you stole from the natives?

[-] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Wait is this aimed at America or Europe?

[-] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 19 points 1 month ago

No. They earned it by mining land stolen from natives.

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

No. They earned it by forcing slaves to mine the land stolen from their Indigenous people.

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I love when Europeans talk about American slavery and colonialism like its not one of Europe's favorite pastimes too.

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[-] CriticalThought@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Sorry. Not all of us were able to get our country’s gold from the nazis.

[-] zerofk@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’ll have you know most of us got our gold long before the nazis came to power.

We had colonies to exploit.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

If you really want to piss off Europeans all you gotta do is make the claim that the EU is subsurvient to US foreign policy demands which means they'll throw away any of their beneficial policies or laws to retain good standing in the US hegemony, no matter how absurd or insane US leadership is.

[-] Napster153@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

They didn't give away Greenland when the Donnie asked. That's a grudgin'

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

learn to take the criticism then

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[-] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Does that mean if we all stop legit criticisms, y'all stop feeling irrationally inferior and become normal?

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[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

If it makes you feel any better, I want you back. Polanski of UK Greens wants out of NATO and into an EU-exclusive military alliance

I want the US to go to rehab and then move back in with us. I'll even make your favorite dish: string cheese

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[-] greenMeanHoppinMachine@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

This thread is like Monty Python's "Life of Brian". Half the people here are the People’s Front of Judea and the other half are the Judean People’s Front.

Or better yet, we're like the Maya Pei Brigade arc from the first few episodes of season two of Star Wars Andor.

Trump, Stephen Miller, Meloni, Orban, Farage, Weidel, Le Pen and the rest love watching us fight each other. It's one of their most effective tactics.

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