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[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 284 points 2 months ago

Better put their own wall up before the Americans start pouring in.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 147 points 2 months ago

"I told you Mexico would pay for it!"

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

I was literally just thinking retiring to Mexico doesn't sound terrible in the future.

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 months ago

Climate change is not boding well for Mexico unfortunately. You can expect severe water shortages in the coming decades.

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[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 251 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

not free; tax funded

Which is great! Taxes should be invested in citizens’ needs.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 152 points 2 months ago

Free as in "free at the point of service".
Of course it is paid for somehow.
But as far a a someone going into a hospital to get a cast, medicine, birth... It's free

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago

That’s true. Unfortunately, calling it free is often used by people who want to paint it as infeasible, and is used as an excuse to cut funding—even when data shows it’s an investment with human and monetary rewards.

[-] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As far as everyone except oligarchs are concerned, it means everyone can access it without getting financially fucked over into debt. And that's excellent news.

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

incorrect slightly- while most boomer and right wing assholes know it means free at point of service and tax funded they act like it means “free for welfare queens and illegals” because they think daddy capitalist is watching them lick boots.

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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes I mean nothing is free if we try to be strict about it. The word would have no meaning. I think we all understand “sold at zero price” but there are always people in the crowd who want to pop up and say “it’s not free! someone pays!” Typically their next move is to start breaking down who pays and why it’s unfair. I have no patience for them.

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[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 121 points 2 months ago

Luckily the US built a border wall so Mexico won't be overflooded with illegal immigrants trying to profit the free health care.

[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

too late. migration started years ago. as long as the gringos bring money.

[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Careful what you wish for. I don't want them in my country, even if they bring money. They fuck everything up. I'm not anti immigrants and refugees, they are welcome, they should be treated better, like equals which sadly isn't always the case in my country. But Americans are a different story. There are some proper Americans, I have a few American friends that are proper, but in general I don't like to have Americans around.

Even their money can fuck everything up. Like raise property prices so locals can't buy property anymore. Same with groceries etc.

It's better to keep them isolated in their own mess. Otherwise they will leave the mess they made to create more mess where you live, then to go somewhere else after that. Irresponsible and selfish people will only bring misery onto others.

In the movie Team America they have a nice saying. "There are pussies, dicks and assholes". Right now Americans are the assholes. They need to get fucked "otherwise you will have all your pussies and dicks all covered in shit."

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Right now Americans are the assholes.

Right now? Americans have always been the assholes. Ask the Natives.

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago

How will this impact the medical tourism industry that Americans depend on for affordable healthcare?

[-] IMALlama@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

You're not kidding. Some towns like Los Algodones built their entire economy around medical tourism.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

I'm sure it will persist, as it primarily services Americans. And their money is still good.

If anything, we'll see the Mexican health care system expand in order to absorb all the domestic residents who can now afford the same care

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[-] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago

Who's the shithole country now, America? 😂

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[-] eltacopeludo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 2 months ago

Mexican here. They are saying everything is free now, but there are not enough medicines, doctors or hospitals so is just a shallow gesture.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 48 points 2 months ago

It's a step. Vs. medicines too expensive to buy, and doctors that you can't see for months who run you through the mill to get their numbers up. I can't say which is worse when the result is about the same. At least you have more of a chance now.

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[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 months ago

No country has enough medicine, doctors, or hospitals.

[-] Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Mexico has around 25 Doctors per 100000 capita. That is lower than almost all European countries that averaged 40 Doctors per 100000 capita.

When it comes to nurses, the comparison is worse. 29/100000capita in Mexico and over 100/100000capita in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Ireland, Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands. With no EU nation falling below 40/100000capita.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/doctors-per-capita-by-country

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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

How is it a shallow gesture when people can now get the care, instead of just dying or suffering?

[-] kobra@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago

Well their original comment alluded to people not being able to get care because there aren't enough medicines, doctors, or hospitals.

I hope they answer you, because I know nothing about what's going on there, but I'm fairly certain that was their point.

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[-] naught101@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Free with crazy wait times is still surely better than expensive with crazy wait times?

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago
[-] Wunz@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago
[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 months ago

This stands out even more because we're in an era when even countries with Universal Healthcare have been walking back on it (as well as Social Security, Unions and other earlier Leftwing conquests) by privatizing them piecemeal through things like forced outsourcing of some services and public-private initiatives.

[-] Aragaren@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

What's important to note is that these placed aren't going back on it because it doesn't work. They are going back on it because of back room deals made with corporate insurance lobbyists and their bought politicians. Profit is always the driving force for privatization.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Exactly.

You can just look at the experience of creating the National Health Service in the UK (there's a bunch of documentaries floating around) to see how it's an overall positive for Society by a large margin, not just directly but also indirectly because for example when people can go see a doctor for free they are far more likely to end up being treated for sickness early on (which its cheaper and easier) or to get treatment for debilitating but not life threatening conditions which in turn even gets reflected in higher Economic outcomes because healthier people are more productive.

Universal Healthcare Systems only "don't work" for those who are fatcats getting a slice of that sweet sweet 13%+ of national GDP (about 18% in the US) that goes into Healthcare in the average country.

[-] JC1@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 months ago

Yes it's what's happening here in Canada and it's sickening. But it looks like it's better to blame the left for no reason, so why vote for them? Better keep slowly dismantling everything we collectively built instead!

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 months ago

I voted her for this kind of policies, but reality is not that simple. Public healthcare costs a lot of money, and current facilities and personnel are in the stone age. I wouldn't go to any public healthcare facility right now as my first choice. At least not where I live. Sustained investment and vigilance are key, and I hope that by the end of her mandate we will have something we could call a proper public healthcare system, not yet a decent one, but an existing one.

[-] spicystraw@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

A step in the right direction. Thank you for sharing the realism on a clickbait title.

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[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This kinda thing doesn’t turn on over night. You might be able to afford private, but very few will be able to. The American paid system has a 3-9 month wait for doctor visits right now in Tucson. My doctor also doesn’t even physically examine me anymore because they’re so rushed to get in other patients, because capitalism.

Edit: not that capitalism is evil, it just has no place in healthcare.

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

If you'd told any American 40 years ago that Mexico's democracy in 2026 would make Americas look pathetic, they'd have called you crazy and then beaten you up. Not so much anymore.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago

They'd probably still beat you up. And then shoot you.

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[-] 5inister@reddthat.com 29 points 2 months ago

Healthcare in Mexico has been free and public for decades. There are still paid private practices and having social security limits the public providers you can use but Article 77 Bis-1 of the General Health Law states that anyone without social security can be treated for free. That article was first published in 2002 and last modified in 2023. This is just the administration claiming that they enacted (excellent) old laws.

[-] criticon@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

It was free for workers and a few administrations ago they implemented a free for all program that was mostly cancelled. They system was also divided by private workers and government workers with different quality of services , this tries to implement all services into one, hopefully it works but this administration has not been very good at the implementation phase of any project

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Ah, so that's why the US is getting more aggressive towards Mexico. Can't have universal healthcare so close to the border.

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[-] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 months ago

Fuck. I really should have taken Spanish seriously back in High School after all

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It isn't too late to finish learning Spanish :)

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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 14 points 2 months ago

Now they are going to need a wall to keep american's out.

[-] daggermoon@piefed.world 13 points 2 months ago

So, it is that easy. Crazy.

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