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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

Just a quick note, we're seeing reports on this post complaining that it's coming from Al Jazeera.

AJ is a left of center source and does tend to lean on loaded words, but they are not considered to be factually dishonest. Well, as long as it's not about Qatar. They do have an obvious blind spot there.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/

"These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Overall, we rate Al Jazeera Left-Center biased, based on story selection that slightly favors the left, and Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks that were not corrected and misleading extreme editorial bias that favors Qatar."

[-] generalpotato@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Also why Israel is after actively banning Al Jazeera. They are trying (desperately) to hide their war crimes and the genocide.

https://lemmy.ml/post/6760749

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

It's not pro Israel so it's clearly biased and anti semitic. Delete it now.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Don't put your American Overton window on an international news source.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

The reports were asking for removal because they consider AJ to be a propaganda source. I'm clarifying that we do not concurr and won't be removing posts simply because they come from AJ.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

All media is a propaganda source, either explicitly or implicitly. Calling for removal because of "propaganda" is nonsensical.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Well, some are worse than others. :) We're working on a list of unacceptable sources. Epoch Times, places like that. Regardless, AJ is not unacceptable.

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[-] NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago

the church was 1600 years old too

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 35 points 2 years ago

From the Washington Post:

The Order of St. George, an associated order of the church, issued a statement confirming the strike. “Archbishop Alexios appears to have been located and is alive, but we don’t know if he is injured,” the Order of St. George stated. The blast hit “two church halls where the refugees, including children and babies, were sleeping.”

[-] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

I like to shit on Israel as much as the next person but looking at Al-Jazeera as a source when it comes to Israel vs Palestine conflict is like citing RT as a source for Russian vs Ukraine.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 40 points 2 years ago

How about this one?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/20/gaza-church-strike-saint-porphyrius/

It has a quote from the IDF saying it was their bomb, but claiming that it struck a "Hamas Stronghold" and "damaged a nearby Church Wall".

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Or you could read it and the hundreds of other clearly pro-israeli western cum rags we call newspapers these days and make up your own mind. Calling one of the few news sources not openly shilling for the Israeli side of the conflict biased, seems a little... Biased.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

For anyone else who doesn't like Al Jazeera, here is an article they wrote 4 days ago about this very church being the last refuge for hundreds of displaced civilians who had nowhere left to turn. Thankfully it's hosted on MSN, so it's not fully taboo to read about the horrified people who were at their wits end trying to escape death and largely accepting the futility of the effort.

Any strike on the church “would not only be an attack on religion, which is a vile deed, but also an attack on humanity”, Father Elias said. “Our humanity calls us to offer peace and warmth to everyone in need.”

George Shabeen, a Palestinian Christian and a father of four sheltering in the church with his family, said they had nowhere else to go; their streets had been targeted by three Israeli air raids.
“Coming here saved our lives,” he told Al Jazeera. “During the night, we huddle together, Muslims and Christians, old and young, and pray for safety and peace.”

If someone at the IDF read through some of this propaganda then maybe they wouldn't have put a bomb right next to the church.

Oh well, everyone makes mistakes.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

The first report is always wrong.

[-] saze@feddit.uk 16 points 2 years ago

Bet they have proof Hamas did it.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

More "totally legit audios" in Arabic spoken with Hebrew accents.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago
[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Washington post confirms video with Geo-location

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago
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