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[-] ech@lemm.ee 139 points 11 months ago

5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.

[-] MrMusAddict@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago

In my opinion this is actually better than the CoC. The only thing "missing" is the definition of which qualities you shouldn't discriminate against. But that's now generalized into "groups of people".

I still can't discriminate against people based on any qualification. Hell, I technically can't discriminate against "pineapple on pizza eaters".

[-] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 55 points 11 months ago

Good. Because it's fucking delicious and I don't care what the internet says. We all loved it in the 90s, and nothing has changed. It's still delicious, we just do less coke now.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Obligatory pizza related chime in. You fuck with jalapenos on that sexy pineapple pizza?

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[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

You heretic! I want you to know that if I could discriminate against you for putting pineapple on pizza, I absolutely would!

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[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 11 months ago

What about people who don't eat pizza crust?

[-] Shazbot@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

They are wonderful people. Especially when they tear off the crust so I can eat it.

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[-] Xylinna@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

I love some pineapple pizza!

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Some day we will eradicate your kind

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

As it is worded you can't discriminate against nazis and racists either.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago

You can discriminate all you want, you just can't harass, bully, violate privacy or threaten violence.

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[-] lemann@lemmy.one 5 points 11 months ago

I like my pineapple pizzas with a bbq base 🤪 don't come after me 😂

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[-] boatswain@infosec.pub 6 points 11 months ago

Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that's already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?

[-] stankmut@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

That paragraph is part of the new terms and conditions document they released.

[-] Geert@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

OP completely ignoring 5.0.1

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 44 points 11 months ago

Well they banned me for saying I don't like ads and called it harassment. They have no idea what they are doing and are not fit to be admins of anything.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 9 points 11 months ago

Unless you provide the exact text you were banned for, I'll be having my doubts.

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

https://lemmy.world/comment/3536316

https://lemmy.world/comment/3535459

https://lemmy.world/comment/3531009

Another kind of funny thing is that this is on Lemmy.ml. "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts."

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 4 points 11 months ago

Was this during the sync thing?

To be honest as a mod or admin I would personally get sick of reading the same things over and over again, with sync fans attacking staunch FOSSers and staunch FOSSers attacking sync fans. It only served to get both sides upset for literally no reason, and fracture the community even more.

Their inboxes would have also likely been flooded out to death during that time with both sides reporting each other over petty remarks

Doesn't make it right, however I can see why it happened. Probably another reason behind the "dont report something unless its against the terms" rule.

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

I've definitely never reported anyone related to this. They came to a FOSS community and then got upset when people criticize the propritizing of FOSS software. They should change the rules to not allow any criticize of the ad business model instead of banning people for made up reasons. 🤷

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[-] InternetTubes@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Seriously, this is the least of its problems, but it certainly hints at them: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/554307/Just-wanted-a-warning-Lemmy-World-is-perhaps-worse-than-reddit

Basically, they don't even follow the examples they set in their Terms of Service and will not only ban but purge your entire comment account on a whim because they didn't like the criticism they said they were open to on a post stating that "users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World." There's no doubt, they were pretty clear they considered the criticism "disagreeing with the terms of service".

Create your user on another instance and save yourself the surprise of encountering admins who abuse their power on a whim. That can be your entire account history down the drain, and the number of comments or the age of the account won't matter to them.

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is exactly what I experienced when I was part of their top moderator and ban discussion discord channels. They would regularly ban people for little to no reason and then laugh about it and then realize they need to come up with reasons after the fact. This is also how they deal with defederation. They had defederated an instance more than once prior to having any concrete reasons to do so. They operate on gut feeling and disregard their own rules and ToS on the regular.

Not even Reddit is so unprofessional.

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[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

The new rules also say you’re not allowed to report content for things that aren’t a violation of the terms of service. So if you report a content for being racist, that’s against the rules.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 21 points 11 months ago

Unless they changed it - the last time I checked there was an exception for posts violating community rules, so communities who want to exempt themselves can just add a rule IMO

From my perspective, communities in general instantly remove racist content once reported, and most racial slurs in these contexts are used as a personal attack towards another individual.

🔥HOT TAKE: There are contexts where racial slurs could be used without bad intentions, such as in a car visual customization community, or in a community with people of colour referencing each other. These slurs are especially used among younger age groups in a casual manner, who may not consider such terms offensive at their current point in life. Of course, such communities can just ban these terms outright with a new rule.

Unless i'm missing something, I don't see the problem with this

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Well this is some bullshit. I'm out.

[-] Geert@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

It's absolutely a bullshit take from OP

[-] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 7 points 11 months ago

That was easier than I thought.

[-] Geert@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

With your 4 month old account

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[-] qaz@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Have you asked the admins/mods of lemmy.world about this before posting this?

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

Redditors gonna Reddit

[-] CookieJarObserver@ani.social 7 points 11 months ago

Knowing the admins there they will still ban you for anything you say against their political views...

[-] vzq 16 points 11 months ago

Against their political view that racial bigotry discrimination is bad? I sure hope so.

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