I think I'm gonna stick with LibreOffice
Nothing bad in having some variety.
Maybe they'll come up with stuff the other team didn't and both improve that way.
I'll gladly try any alternatives to a suite that feels 20 years out of date personally.
https://www.techzine.eu/news/infrastructure/140634/dutch-central-bank-chooses-lidl-for-european-cloud/
https://www.techzine.eu/news/infrastructure/141644/kpn-launches-sovereign-cloud-with-stackit-in-the-netherlands/
One of the biggest telecom provider of the Netherlands KPN has started to work with German company Schwarzdigits to create a fully European Cloud as well and they'll release it today!! Looooooooooooooooooooooooove these initiatives !!!! Letsgo Europe 😍 🇪🇺
if only there was a good, actively developed and highly regarded free and open source alternative whose name would be something like "LibreOffice"...
I like and use Libreoffice, but its a local application. This makes it fine for working by yourself and on your own hardware. Google Docs (Gstuite) is an online application with the best collaboration integration I've seen and works on nearly any device you can open a modern browser on. Yes, both products have a word processor and a spreadsheet, but they don't serve all the same use cases.
If this new Euro-office can replicate the Gsuite offerings (that Libreoffice lacks), then Euro-office could be a great addition to the open source community.
right, thank you for pointing it out.
Nah this new Euro-Office is literally a OnlyOffice fork according to their GitHub. It's much closer in comparison to LibreOffice than Google docs.
They have worked with NextCloud to make Euro-Office an app/add-on (I forget what NextCloud calls them specifically) from this release (v1.0), so that they can integrate with a platform that already.. Has this feature (with Collabora office), but hey.. The more the merrier.
Although straightforward, I appreciate they didn't reinvent the wheel here -- Nextcloud plus OnlyOffice is a solid combo to replace the MS365- and Gsuite-like product lines.
OnlyOffice is both. They have a fantastic web version that integrates well into NextCloud already. And they have a mobile version too. Assuming all of those get forked with it, we can certainly expect a Gsuite alternative.
I remember seeing a post earlier this year about libreoffice doing a web based version.
You're proving my point. They just started working on it 3 months ago. It will be a long time, if ever, before it is a Gsuite replacement. They even said they tried this a few years ago and abandoned it. There's a risk they'd do it again.
So if there's another open source effort specifically focused on an online product, its a good thing.
LibreOffice feels like a java app with 40 years of baggage and tech debt going back to Sun Microsystems
It feels like when I was trying to use GIMP. In theory there might be a good product in there somewhere, but it's not worth it to wade through the terrible UX decisions in order to find out.
LibreOffice isn't an alternative to web-based office suites.
Pretty sure it uses Collabora, which is literally LibreOffice source code in a web shell.
Edit: just checked, they are using OnlyOffice as a base instead of the already European Collabora. Strange choice but so be it.
Tried LibreOffice, hated it for being clunky and unpleasant.
Hoping the Euro is better.
If governments across the world gave a quarter of what they give to Microsoft to open source projects that compete, not only would they get to stop paying Microsoft all that money, they'd have a better product to boot. Add to that the side benefit to people and companies using it, and it's pretty obvious why Microsoft will do everything in its power (except make a better product for a better price) to prevent that.
I can't wait for all the Office EU <--> MS365 tools Microsoft make that always make the Office EU software look bad on purpose
Despite the name, OnlyOffice has no connection with LibreOffice's ancestor, the Apache Foundation's OnlyOffice
It pisses me off when tech journalists don't bother to double check with a simple web search. Don't even need to actually search, just type in the search bar "apache foundation o" and it autocompletes in "apache foundation OpenOffice"
It could be worse:
Apache Foundation's OnlyFans
My margins can only get so tight.
Now when are we getting: As-Office, Aus-Office, Afri-Office, NAmeri-Office, SAmeri-Office and Ant-Office?
Ant-Office would be so cool..
🥶
What is this, an office for ants???
I'm disappointed it's not "Euroffice".
That only works in English. It's easier not to try and get clever with naming schemes when it needs to cover 12 different languages including one language that's written right to left.
Also from an administration standpoint it's a pain in the arse having a program with a clever name that you have to explain every time somebody tries to search for it in the company portal, and then can't find it. I already have this issue with some software on our domain called Omny instead of Omni.
Spotted a typo, it refers to "Apache Foundation's OnlyOffice," when that product is OpenOffice (as one can discover by following the link). This is different from the OnlyOffice mentioned earlier in the paragraph.
Isn't OpenOffice deprecated? Or am I mistaken?
It still exists and gets regular updates, but has been half-dead for 20 years.
I wish OnlyOffice was a little more well-known and community-developed - it's way better at what it does
OnlyOffice recently got famous for not understanding FOSS.
LibreOffice is the fork that’s truly community driven. OpenOffice is open source but controlled by big tech.
Explains why LibreOffice is the default choice then. Thanks
I’m using nextcloud+onlyoffice as office 365 replacement so this is simply excellent news! Glad i can get rid of onlyoffice the company.
i remember hearing this is just a rebrand of onlyoffice, is there something interesting about it (from a technical pov)?
https://github.com/Euro-Office
Euro-Office liberates the ONLYOFFICE code base
Euro-Office is based on the ONLYOFFICE Open Source, an AGPL codebase. This code base is being extensively reviewed and cleaned up, with the goal of making it easy to build and contribute to. Why did we resort to a fork, rather than collaborate? Of course, forking should be a last resort. Unfortunately, open collaboration with ONLYOFFICE was not possible, for a number of reasons:
- Contributing is impossible or greatly discouraged. ONLYOFFICE typically does not review or accept pull requests. Build instructions are unreliable, outdated or just plain broken.
- The company regularly makes controversial decisions like closing off features in the mobile apps like mobile editing, and the removal of an administrator panel.
- Lacking transparency. Commit messages, when visible, often just refer to an issue number in an internal issue tracker. There are quite a number of binary blobs and compiled or obfuscated code blobs. Most internal code comments are Russian which makes is hard to work with.
- The mobile apps are not really open source but just wrappers. Example. The apps have extensive proprietary sections which will need to be re-implemented. Work on this is underway.
- ONLYOFFICE is a Russian company (despite many attempts to hide this), and nearly all developers reside in Russia. Open Source is a global effort, but current political situation makes collaboration hard and trust difficult to earn. Especially when development is not transparent and open. A lot of users and customers require software that is not potentially influenced or controlled by the Russian government.
Ah, good riddance to OnlyOffice, then!
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