It shouldn't. Linux users are like cats. The harder you try to herd them in one direction, the more directions they find to go. Just because they all happen to be in one place at one particular time doesn't mean they will suffer any obligation to stay there the moment someone decides they want them to.

It's less that and just the absolute ridiculous scope creep of systemd. Again it was meant to just replace init. All it needs to do is boot the kernel and run at launch services, and people disagree on that last part.

It shouldn't be basically a second layer to the kernel in both application and necessity.

the monolithic kernel must really mess with your noggin

best of luck with devuan

Yes, but the centralization runs so much deeper! We should ditch the centralized linux kernel and create at least 10 completely new kernels that are barely compatible to each other but will ensure our freedom and provide choice to the community!

Why? Systemd is open source.

I find it extremely hard to believe that worked, let alone left you with a bootable system, let alone properly working.

Flatpak has been pretty optional on most distros I've used. Snap on the other hand...

I've lived without Flatpak for over 20 years. I'm not worried.

Omw to switch my arch to a selfwritten init manager /s

They're somewhat sandboxed, likely to be up to date, and it behaves similarly across different machines. It's nice for GUI programs that don't need access to the wider system, and it won't mess with anything else that I already have installed. I guess it would have similar pros and cons as containerization with Podman/Docker?

I get the vast majority of my GUI programs from Flathub. I didn't know there was a controversy with it, other than just wanting a different way of doing things.

Because it just works, and updates faster than apt.

Because at least with flatpak I don’t end up with app files littering my system and personal folders.

macOS’s application format used to be the best. It’s kind of a mess now with half of apps following xdg, some writing to the app folder, some application support and some iCloud Drive.

But it used to be good.

I have an atomic distro, and it lets me install apps without having to reboot or spin up distrobox.

I love NixOS, but I hate how coupled to systemd it is.

I tried to make a microVM image of NixOS the other day, using tini as the init system. Large parts of the core NixOS lifecycle simply don’t work at all without systemd.