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[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

Or maybe she just had tuberculosis...

[-] candyman337@piefed.ca 35 points 1 week ago

Yes, one thing you have to understand when reading old stories like this is that the look that tuberculosis gave you was literally romanticized, to be pale and slightly sickly was seen as desirable

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

That's why I brought it up

[-] wieson@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

The OG cocaine chique

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m not so sure about this. Pale yes, as it meant you were upper class and didn’t work in the sun.

Skinny no, I think that’s a much more modern thing. They wanted you to be fat, or at least voluptuous as a woman. Again it meant you weren’t starved, you were healthy and well fed. You could bear children. That transcends a lot of cultures too. Pretty much all of them probably.

I don’t think we started romanticizing skinny until food was mass produced, shelf stable, affordable, accessible etc. and medicine could handle pregnancy and greatly prevent early childhood deaths.

[-] candyman337@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I didn't say skinny I said sickly

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Being fat doesn't make pregnancy less risky...it actually increases it.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

But why would the mirror on the wall call her the fairest if it couldn't even reflect her?

[-] teegus@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

The mirror was evaluating the number of flaws of people, and if it couldn't see her it found no flaws. Hence she was perfect.

[-] tenacious_mucus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Also how did she enter the house uninvited?

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I was going to say she's persuasive but now I remember the story says she went in while they were in the mine, and cleaned up their mess, so they let her stay? But that's pretty weird so maybe we make it that she arrives while they're home.

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 7 points 1 week ago

Well it's a magic mirror so maybe not silver based that's the basis for the reflection thing how mirrors were made back then but also it may not have pics but it knows she's hot

[-] Slashme@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is precisely the premise of "snow, glass, apples".

[-] wieson@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Man people don't read anymore. It's "lips as red as blood" and the long sleep is an entirely different fairy tale "Dornröschen".
Commandeering animals doesn't ring a bell either, might be a Disney variant. Many fairy tale protagonists get help from animals or natural spirits.

[-] Slashme@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

When Snow White eats the poisoned apple, she goes into a deep sleep. The dwarves put her into a glass coffin. A prince sees her, falls in love, and brings her home. On the way, the coffin is jostled, dislodging the apple and waking her up.

So that part at least fits. And saying "Man, people don't read anymore" is a bit ironic when you missed that part of the story ;-)

[-] wieson@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

I get it buuuut I did re-read it to make sure there are no talking or obeying animals. The Grimm's version does mention days of her being dead, not years. So we need some magic to prevent her decay, but not her aging. I think the tumblr post heavily implies a mix-up with Aurora.

[-] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

In the original tale, she is the lost sister of the 7 bandits (not dwarfs).

[-] wieson@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Like many oral traditions folk tales vary a lot. I would really be interested where the 7 bandits tale is from because in the Grimm variant it's 7 dwarves.

[-] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Disney wasn't the only one adding sugar to the tales.

[-] Yosmonkol@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

There are several variants that use robbers/bandits instead of dwarfs, the earliest is probably from 'The Young Slave' recorded in 1634 in the Pentamerone. The Pentamerone also has one of the earliest versions of sleeping beauty called 'Sun, Moon, and Talia'. For those interested: Here is a pretty comprehensive list of the stories similar to Snow White.

[-] wieson@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Pretty cool, thanks

[-] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

Sounds like some Goth chicks I used to know.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, yeah, ill get to it when I finish the Cinderella redo I've been working on off and on for years now.

Seriously, this isn't the first time the idea has come up. The description has made people say hmmm since before that phrase was in made popular by Arsenio. My little group of jackass weirdo friends talked about a bunch of those old stories and how the various descriptions and phrasings aren't really executed well.

I've thought about snow white being some kind of supernatural creature as the basis for a story a few times over the years, but it isn't as inspiring as I could hope. The Cinderella redo is more inspiring, but the take I have on it is difficult to get right, so it's slow going.

I may well end up doing the snow white thing as a more direct rewrite, I dunno.

[-] Slashme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Make sure you don't just re-do Gaiman's "Snow, glass, apples".

[-] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Sounds like someone has never seen Stoya

The poisoned apple had just garlic inside.

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