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A new report by Human Rights Watch argues that the compulsory use of Chinese as the primary language in schools in Tibet raises “serious concerns under international human rights law”.

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[-] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

Man, so much whataboutism.

How about we stop deliberately killing off cultures?

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Except the only culture being killed off is a feudal theocracy.

Tibetan is still taught in their schools, along with Chinese. HRW is a Zionist organization. OP is a serial Zionist-apologia poster from Isn'treal (just click through their post history). Their agenda is to post US/Zionazi propaganda only.

[-] Geobloke@aussie.zone 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah some one needs to civilise that savage

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Feudal theocracy in 1950s. Tibet never got the time to develop due to China's brutal occupation.

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[-] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

"HRW is zionist organization", this is hilariously mistaken, HRW has been super critical of the Israeli gov, IDF and West Bank settlers for decades now: https://www.hrw.org/middle-east/north-africa/israel/palestine

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[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Am I in r/sino?

Eradicating one culture deemed medieval and feudalistic and replacing it with a ethnosupremacist form of feudalist capitalism disguised in a pseudo-Maoist wrapper... Standard fare in the Pooh World where what the Hans are doing is "liberation". Not only that, the Tibetan plateau is like a smorgasbord for Mainlander corporations looking for rare-earth resources, so there comes the program of forced assimilation which is no more different from banishing all Palestinians from their lands.

(BTW, Israel sold to China some several key technologies, including early-warning radar.)

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[-] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

What I don't get about the CCP shills is why they think I would trust the Chinese government when I don't even trust my own government.

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

Resistance since the uprising of 1959 has persisted under the current Dalai Lama, a “potent force despite decades of propaganda, political crackdowns and education drives aimed at undermining his authority”, living in exile in India.

What authority are they talking about? Are they arguing that education should not be offered and that instead theocratic leadership is what is most important when considering human rights? I think rather the real propaganda comes from the west in favour of a feudal theocracy.

[-] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

They're unironically calling for child sex slaves to be reinstated.

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[-] squash_squash@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

HRW only cares for human rights violations in certain countries. Fuck this imperialistic apparatus.

[-] Geobloke@aussie.zone 7 points 1 month ago

In addition to what deft is saying in another comment here is the HRW openly stating Israel is committing "crimes against humanity" and "apartheid."

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine

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[-] baizi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I wouldn’t believe shit coming from human rights watch, people are being made stateless where I’m from and I haven’t heard a peep out of them. Current estimates look around 300k or so.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 19 points 1 month ago

Why wouldn't you believe it? That only proves they have bias, not that they're lying. At worst it's no better than US, Russian, or Chinese state media. Which many happily accept. If there's a problem with the message counter the message, not the messenger.

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[-] j_overgrens@feddit.nl 13 points 1 month ago

The amount of people here using EXACTLY the same disgusting reasoning that 19th century Europeans used for genocide is... well disgusting.

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[-] Tolc@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is the case across all of China, as Mandarin is the language of the state and citizens need it to get good jobs and talk amongst each other. We need to stop pretending Tibet is being oppressed. The Dalai Lama was in the Epstein files.

[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

Tibet is being oppressed. The Dalai Lama was in the Epstein files.

Those thing are not mutually exclusive

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

He’s the official leader of Tibet in the west. He represents the Tibetan political movement. If you understood Tibet as the Lama sees it, you’d understand what’s being advocated for is a theocracy that practiced slavery. “Free Tibet” is Lost Cause revisionism.

Before modern Chinese administration, monasteries and the DL held great power, owned vast swaths of land and held legal authority, similar to the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages. Since China incorporated Tibet there’s been secular law and modern infrastructure built in Tibet.

The Chinese government wants all areas it governs to have industries which give people work to build a better quality of life. Part of that is having the communication skills to interact with the job market in China. Mandarin in schools is basic education for future citizens to find work. And outside of anti-government, pro-monastery propaganda, Tibetans are allowed to say, write, and read anything they want in their native language.

[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

There is a difference between government and culture. The Chinese are also trying to terminate the Tibetan language and the cultural customs of common people.

[-] Tolc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The Chinese are also trying to terminate the Tibetan language and the cultural customs of common people.

no they arent

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[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 17 points 1 month ago

Ah but the big thing you're missing. Is Tibet doesn't want this.

China has done everything it can to destroy the culture and make them culturally Chinese.

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Tibet doesn’t want modern infrastructure like the Chinese have built? They don’t want a modern education or modern jobs? They want to be ruled by monasteries headed by the Dalai Lama, a theocracy led by a man in the Epstein files? You must be pretty racist against Tibetans to believe that.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 26 points 1 month ago

They don't want to be Chinese or China. The rest is irrelevant and quiet frankly insulting.

Europeans said the same about indigenous Americans. I guess you support that too?

It's the same thing China is doing to Uyghur Muslims.

It's called genocide

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Even more insulting is comparing real genocide with having children take Mandarin classes.

Show me videos of the Chinese treating the Tibetans the way Israelis treat Palestinians. Show me Chinese soldiers shooting missiles at Tibetan schools, hospitals, and places of worship. Show me the Chinese military killing Tibetans by the thousands and bragging about it.

Why hasn’t the international criminal court put out an arrest warrant if an actual genocide is taking place? Cry me a river, you propagandistic liar!

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 20 points 1 month ago

Suck my nut it's genocide and I don't care how much you say it isn't.

We aren't arguing an opinion. It's a fact.

"Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. Genocide is directed against the national group as an entity, and the actions involved are directed against individuals, not in their individual capacity, but as members of the national group"

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[-] Mr_WorldlyWiseman 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ok then the US should be allowed to dismantle Xi Jinping's dictatorship and make everyone in Asia speak English.

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[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I "wonder" whom they got cultural-genocide-methods from..

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Hopi+prisoners+in+alcatraz&t=fpas&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

( Hopi men in Alcatraz prison, because they wouldn't sign their agreement with their children being taken from them, at gunpoint, to be enforced into the residential-"school" institutions ).


Back in the Nuremberg trials, we had the absolute-gall to maintain that MoralLaw, aka NaturalLaw, aka RuleOfJustLaw, "outranks" RuleOfLegalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law

Where, in our genociding of Indigenous Peoples & their culture, both before & after, did we demonstrate that principle??

Oh, we "have the right to be 2-faced" .. ??

Anybody who's tried reading Wehle's book "How to Think like a Lawyer, and Why", knows that legalism is the whole of the law, & RuleOfJustLaw/MoralLaw/NaturalLaw .. hasn't got any power to outrank precident.

https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/how-to-think-like-a-lawyer-and-why

( the SCOTUS gutting of the US's Voting Rights Act stands on legalism, e.g. )


Yes, it is true that I already-know that CCP gaslights about holding to international-law.

My point is that our world holds to "rule of law", NOT to Rule of Law, & that our pretending otherwise is itself gaslighting.

Yes, Jim Crow 2.0 is being enforced in the US, now.

Yes, ICE is embodying the SAME "principles" in the US that the IDF is embodying in Gaza

( this short, and difficult-to-watch, video explains that .. while showing us the murders of ICE, & their other IDF-clone behaviors, .. while showing us the IDF's original-renditions. Please have the guts to see it with your own eyes: it changes one to see & understand, accurately.. https://youtu.be/qhZBVLQK9MU )

& yes, this supremacism/genociding principle is enacting in Europe ( ask the Ukranians' stolen children about it ), in Asia ( see the article linked in the OP ), in the Middle-East ( Netanyahu's "Israel" .. I discovered yesterday that the real LivingSpirit-loyal Jews are calling Netanyahu "Amalek", which is the embodyer-of-anti-Judaism/"Jewish"-evil ) & in the Americas.

This is part of a global paradigm, not something local to 1 of the 4 world-pushing "poles" of Earth!

It's the principle/paradigm that needs opposing, not letting the framing be made "only-local", because so long as we remain blindfolded against the globalness-of-the-paradigm, then we remain as ineffective as they want us to be!

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[-] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 44 points 1 month ago

A) cultural genocide has been a thing, in lots of places, for millenia. As one of the oldest civilisations, China has plenty of examples in its history, no need to rely on Americans for inspiration.

B) countries shouldn't get a turn or an hall pass at crimes against humanity because other countries did or are doing the same.

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[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 month ago

^Modern whataboutism propaganda will exhaust you by the end so you forget entirely that this thread is about China's human rights abuses.

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