What I don't get about the CCP shills is why they think I would trust the Chinese government when I don't even trust my own government.
It's always the same with the propagandists:
edit// oh, and next is personal attacks towards people going against their propaganda lmao. Here's some facts to save some time if anyone wants to look for some faults to discredit me: I'm not american but finnish and I do not support their fascist idiots in power, my country did not colonize anyone (we were the poor losers), we allied with the nazis in ww2 because everyone was allied with soviets and left us at their mercy as a collateral (and we backstabbed the nazis the moment it was a better course of action), I do not support Israel and the genocide of palestinians needs to stop, Russia invaded Ukraine and is genociding there
Oh, and I do not hate chinese people or culture in any capacity, it's their leadership that's responsible. I am just very much against genocide, no matter who is doing it
Am I in r/sino?
Eradicating one culture deemed medieval and feudalistic and replacing it with a ethnosupremacist form of feudalist capitalism disguised in a pseudo-Maoist wrapper... Standard fare in the Pooh World where what the Hans are doing is "liberation". Not only that, the Tibetan plateau is like a smorgasbord for Mainlander corporations looking for rare-earth resources, so there comes the program of forced assimilation which is no more different from banishing all Palestinians from their lands.
(BTW, Israel sold to China some several key technologies, including early-warning radar.)
The amount of people here using EXACTLY the same disgusting reasoning that 19th century Europeans used for genocide is... well disgusting.
It's an intrinsic feature of single-ethnicity hegemony, and is present in almost all forms of nationalism and most imperialism.
Man, so much whataboutism.
How about we stop deliberately killing off cultures?
Except the only culture being killed off is a feudal theocracy.
Tibetan is still taught in their schools, along with Chinese. HRW is a Zionist organization. OP is a serial Zionist-apologia poster from Isn'treal (just click through their post history). Their agenda is to post US/Zionazi propaganda only.
Feudal theocracy in 1950s. Tibet never got the time to develop due to China's brutal occupation.
Tankies don't acknowledge the existence of time, they still attempt to describe Taiwan as a military junta.
Yeah some one needs to civilise that savage
"HRW is zionist organization", this is hilariously mistaken, HRW has been super critical of the Israeli gov, IDF and West Bank settlers for decades now: https://www.hrw.org/middle-east/north-africa/israel/palestine
I concede my claim about HRW. I was wrong about them being a zionist org. I'm not wrong about the rest though.
Literally US Zionist propaganda
From Wikipedia
Human Rights Watch (HRW) is a nonprofit watchdog group headquartered in New York City
In 2026, HRW's Israel and Palestine director resigned after HRW blocked a report that argued that Israel's denial of the Palestinian right of return is a "crime against humanity".
In 2014, two Nobel Peace Laureates, Adolfo Pérez Esquivel and Mairead Maguire, wrote a letter signed by 100 other human rights activists and scholars criticizing HRW for its revolving-door hiring practices with the U.S. government, its failure to denounce the U.S. practice of extrajudicial rendition, its endorsement of the U.S. 2011 military intervention in Libya, and its silence during the 2004 Haitian coup d'état.
Why are you posting Zionist propaganda "NGO"s?
I'm no fan of Zionists but what you are doing is attacking and attempting to discredit the source to distract from the message that they are trying to push.
The story here is the attempted cultural genocide of the Tibetan people by the Chinese government. I come from a nation that has almost lost its language as a result of similar colonial cultural genocide. This issue may not be real or important to you but it is an attempt to destroy a nation's cohesion and identity.
The real question for me is why are you trying to discredit an article on this, what is your agenda here Riverside?
It isn't cultural genocide to teach the only useful language in the region, while requiring the cultural language also be taught.
Who are you to decide what languages are useful?
Cultural erasure is a form of genocide by most definitions.
China is not just requiring the teaching of Mandarin, it is taking steps to eradicate the use of Tibetan and other non-Han languages.
And yes, Western countries have done it too, and it's just as much a crime when they do it. For example, in Britain, children used to be punished for speaking Welsh or Gaelic in schools. The same happened with Catalan and Basque in Spain. Those are just two of many examples.
attempting to discredit the source to distract from the message that they are trying to push
Yes, because the message they're trying to push is "China bad" as a US-gvt and Zionist controlled "NGO", in the current cold war that the US is instigating against China as the former loses worldwide economic dominance.
The story here is the attempted cultural genocide of the Tibetan people by the Chinese government
Yes, and I'd take it seriously if it was real and not fabricated propaganda designed to target the most progressive among us.
I come from a nation that has almost lost its language as a result of similar colonial cultural genocide
I'm very sorry about that. Is China the aggressor in your instance, or are you projecting Western colonialist history onto China because the US propaganda outlets are telling us to do so?
This issue may not be real or important to you
It's extremely important to me. And if it were important to you, you'd be doing activism not for the fabricated false news about Tibetan language, but actual cultural genocides ongoing right now in the west that I haven't seen you do activism about, such as Breton or Occitan in France, the latter of which has gone from 1Mn speakers to 100k over the past century and, to this day, enjoys no official recognition or status. Lhasa Tibetan is, TODAY, the official language of the Tibet Autonomous Region of China. In the 1950s, there were about a million speakers of Tibetan in China, today there are about 6 million. From Wikipedia:
"In the Texas Journal of International Law, Barry Sautman stated that "none of the many recent studies of endangered languages deems Tibetan to be imperiled, and language maintenance among Tibetans contrasts with language loss even in the remote areas of Western states renowned for liberal policies"
I understand your concern with the preservation of languages and cultures, I completely share that mindset. However, I urge you to look at the material facts beyond US/Zionist-fabricated fearmongering: Chinese currency portrays the currency values written in Tibetan among other languages of China, Tibetan speakers only grow over time according to modern evidence, and the countries warning against such acts are literally carrying out unspoken acts of linguistic genocide.
Yes, because the message they're trying to push is "China bad" as a US-gvt and Zionist controlled "NGO"
Yes but are they lying? Is it not true that China is unilaterally changing the primary language to Chinese for schools in Tibet?
Yes, and I'd take it seriously if it was real and not fabricated propaganda
Why do you say it is not real, human rights watch is just one source, a quick search leads to several sources you can find yourself. This is also not a new issue, there is information on the promotion of Mandarin over Chinese in Tibetan schools going back years. Just because you do not accept what is happening does not make it propagand
Is China the aggressor in your instance, or are you projecting Western colonialist history onto China
Colonialism is still colonialism, doesn't matter if it's Chinese or western it's all the same. Erasure of cultural identity and especially language is always a big part.
And if it were important to you, you'd be doing activism
I don't need you to tell me what I should be doing buddy.
I haven't seen you do activism about, such as Breton or Occitan in France,
To be fair you haven't seen me do anything, I am an anonymous internet stranger. For all you know I was marching the streets of Rennes in support of my brothers there.
This is also "whataboutism" on your part, one of the lowest forms of rhetoric. Up your game and stick to the point at hand please.
is, TODAY, the official language of the Tibet Autonomous Region of China. In the 1950s, there were about a million speakers of Tibetan in China, today there are about 6 million.
I see that you capitalised the word today, either you understand the concept of time or are, like Donald Trump, a fool who capitalises words for no reason. You should also then be able to understand that this measure is meant to reduce the amount of native Tibetan speakers going forwards in time. You seem to be trying to use the fact that there are more Tibetan speakers today than in 1950 as proof that China is not trying to reduce native Tibetan speakers in the future? How does this make sense in your thick head buddy? Does this type of argument ever work on people?
Have you ever considered that maybe the Zionists, the USA AND China are all bad? All are shitty imperial colonists.
Gasp, New York City! I only get my news straight from Beijing! Everybody else is a zionist! /s
In 2026, HRW’s Israel and Palestine director resigned after HRW blocked a report that argued that Israel’s denial of the Palestinian right of return is a “crime against humanity”.
Hmm. The more you know.
I wouldn’t believe shit coming from human rights watch, people are being made stateless where I’m from and I haven’t heard a peep out of them. Current estimates look around 300k or so.
Why wouldn't you believe it? That only proves they have bias, not that they're lying. At worst it's no better than US, Russian, or Chinese state media. Which many happily accept. If there's a problem with the message counter the message, not the messenger.
Im saying they are driven by western interest and not actual human rights watch issues.
Human rights apply to white people only and political issues that the west doesn’t agree on, this is what they have turned the UN to. Their credibility isn’t there.
I don't disagree that they are pointing out things for their own agenda. But just because someone has an agenda and points something out doesn't make it false. The fact that they haven't pointed out nor ever made claims about groups XY and z. Doesn't mean they lack credibility. They generally been correct when pointing out abuses of the groups they have pointed out. You're still attacking the messenger and cannot disprove the message.
Resistance since the uprising of 1959 has persisted under the current Dalai Lama, a “potent force despite decades of propaganda, political crackdowns and education drives aimed at undermining his authority”, living in exile in India.
What authority are they talking about? Are they arguing that education should not be offered and that instead theocratic leadership is what is most important when considering human rights? I think rather the real propaganda comes from the west in favour of a feudal theocracy.
HRW only cares for human rights violations in certain countries. Fuck this imperialistic apparatus.
In addition to what deft is saying in another comment here is the HRW openly stating Israel is committing "crimes against humanity" and "apartheid."
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine
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