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[-] vratajin@piefed.social 140 points 1 week ago

Less money for middle class and more money for investors owning Nvidia, OpenAI, Anthropic.
Make no mistake about what's happening, that's wealth transfer from the bottom to the top.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 week ago

And with how this particular AI technology only works by consuming all of the internet’s and our libraries’ data … it’s not just a transfer, it’s pretty much theft.

[-] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago

"works" is a bit too strong

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

and it still cant make anything good out of that slop.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Interestingly, I don’t think I share this sentiment.

I’m no fan and personally don’t use AI (I barely touched it early ChatGPT days). But people use it to do things in successful fulfilment of their initial purpose.

I’ve seen it. Maybe I’ve seen the successes and not the failures in some cases. And I’ve certainly seen badly failed attempts to use it, but in those cases I’m happy to ascribe the failure substantially to a misapplication of the tool (which to be fair certainly invites gross misapplication).

My point though is that I don’t think an absolutist “AI is never useful” position is persuasive any more nor absolutely accurate.

Which, in my view, makes addressing the “rest of the situation” all the more fundamental. Indeed, I think everything g other than its efficacy was always the important part.

Part of the problem is that ethical arguments are difficult for people and many just switch off when it comes to the common good. Which is all of course part of the problem too.

But I think that’s gravity of the situation right now: our collective instincts may be misaligned for the moment. Our personal habits vulnerable from our prior corruptions. And our societal architectures already mutated, perhaps beyond repair, and therefore ill equipped for this.

Doomy, yes, but you’ve got to fight the fight you’re in, not the one you’d wish you’d won.

Another way I could put this counter, is that I feel like so much of what’s bad about AI was bad before AI, and that society from 2005-2020 badly mishandled technology. Whether AI “works” or not doesn’t matter. So long as it can fit into the same shape and meet the same urges that tech did 2005-2020, it will be adopted. But if the consequences of its adoption are graver than what came before, then the whole stack of that history needs to be addressed.

[-] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 3 points 1 week ago

One of the problems the anti-AI crowd have with protrsting this use case is that they don't seem to appreciate that the enshittification happened long before AI.

Actual Software Engineers make up about 5% of the profession, the other 95% have been turning out slop that they don't even understand themselves for years. In that environment, an AI that does the same but at least doesn't complain when asked to do rework doesn't seem so bad.

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

Not even investors. Majority shareholders/BoD.

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[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 126 points 1 week ago

we have to be intentional in how we architect our company for the agentic AI era in order to supercharge the value we deliver to our customers

🤮

The MBAs have won.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

JFC, this marketing speak makes me wanna slap someone. I’m not sure how you can so many words and so little.

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

AI is shockingly good at doing just that.

I guarantee a human did not write this.

[-] northface@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

I guarantee you, managers, sales teams and PR firms have been writing copy like this since the first company was started. Unfortunately, LLM is just reducing the amount of typing a human has to do.

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[-] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Don't you worry about blank, let me worry about blank.

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[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

What did they win? If that works, they were right and deserved to get their way. If it doesn't, thousands more jobs will disappear as they figure out how they ended up in this metaphorical smoking crater.

If you like spoilers, its going to be the latter.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 94 points 1 week ago

Every company that fires people for AI is going to regret it so much in the long run...

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 66 points 1 week ago

They've already had a spate of serious, unprecedented outages affecting half the internet.

So I guess that means the only place to go from there is to double down, eh?

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago

the long run...

But....line go up for next quarter right?

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[-] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 93 points 1 week ago

Employees across the company from engineering to HR to finance to marketing run thousands of AI agent sessions each day to get their work done

Meanwhile the employees:

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago

This is like measuring a carpenter’s work output by how much they use their hammer, not how much gets actually built. I hope every company that does this sorta bullshit goes belly up.

[-] binarytobis@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Using their hammer would be the tools they use to actually code. This is more like measuring a carpenter’s work by how often they get advice from the workers at Home Depot.

[-] dan@upvote.au 9 points 1 week ago

If the company is only measuring token usage and not actual output, it's more like measuring a carpenter's work based on how many hammers they buy.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Yes.

But I do like that, by this measure, I have attained mastery of plumbing, woodworking, landscaping, and have become a master gardener.

[-] binarytobis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

They say you achieve mastery of a skill by spending 10,000 hours receiving advice from Hank over in Home & Garden.

[-] Squirrelanna 3 points 1 week ago

Me when I find a skill trainer in Skyrim

[-] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

It strikes me that it's probably because of all the visibity it offers them into what people are doing and drives them to interact with the chatbot instead of each other. Not everything is about having productive workers. A lot of it is about finding people who are compliant suck ups who won't question the boss no matter what and eliminating anyone with a half a brain cell and an ounce of class solidarity.

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[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Having AI do your commits is a great way to game the system. Gives the added benefit of making it look like the AI wrote it for you as well.

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[-] BlackCat@piefed.social 41 points 1 week ago

"we have to be intentional in how we architect our company for the agentic AI era in order to supercharge the value we deliver to our customers"

God, I hate corpo-speak so much.

[-] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I recently had to listen to our glorious CEO (who totally isn't a nepo failson) about the company being bought out (so yeah I'm getting fired within 2 years for sure) and it was just him furiously jacking off, thinking he sounded smart with all of his ivy corpo speak.

At a certain point I was like "you know, maybe violence IS the answer"

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[-] fubarx@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

A bit ironic they offer a service to keep away AI bots from scanning websites, but say AI use is making them so productive they have to lay people off.

So AI bad or good? Getting whiplashed here.

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago

keep away AI bots from scanning websites

Specifically: Scrapers operated by individuals rather than big, important companies. On one hand, this significantly cuts down on the volume of scraping. On the other, it restricts control of the AI market to a select class of people who are important enough to get by the bot protection.

The root problem, obviously, is that the "AI market" is generally directed at that select class.

AI bad or good?

AI good. Non-rich people bad.

[-] vodka@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago

The main selling point of that feature is to charge for access to scraping websites.

They don't care that your website gets scraped, they care about getting paid when someone does it.

[-] binarytobis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I’ve recently found it ironic that cloudfire classifies me as human based on how I sort AI generated images, presumably as judged by AI.

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[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That tracks. Cloudflare was probably overdue to make a good solid run at grabbing defeat out of the jaws of success.

Edit: Hijacking this to answer the question on some of our minds:

"What was the name of that open source alternative I was able to ignore while CloudFlare was actually doing their job?"

It's Anubis

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

34% YoY revenue growth but that isn’t enough! We want your salary also! Raaaaawr

[-] dhcmrlchtdj__@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Everyone needs to stop twiddling their thumbs and organize their workplaces.

[-] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So much greed.

No wonder most of us give a fuck about our company. Why should I care if I am nothing more than a number that is unfortunately not a robot.

Working could be to just create something good and do so in a community with like minded people. And if it earns enough money to pay everyone's comfortable life needs then that is enough.

That they constantly force growth is just the most toxic bullshit imaginable.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Yes. We need more worker owned cooperatives.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago

Brave move after recent years

[-] SCmSTR 13 points 1 week ago

Ah yes, the elimination of jobs is always good for society.

[-] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 week ago

Jokes on them I’ve been training ai to seize the means of production

[-] kazerniel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

ugh I host my domains with them, but probably high time I switched away :/

edit: and done! switched to a local host :)

[-] vane@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Useless company with useless services from silicon wankers.

[-] mokey@therock.fraggle-rock.org 5 points 1 week ago

The halting problem is your friend. Have one agent review the work of another agent and then have trade places in an endless loop.

[-] northface@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Perpeetum token machine

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

so i have to boycott Cloudflare now?
but imma wait until more Sources cover this, i dont want to rely soly on the register.

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