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[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why do we even have graveyards? Embalming chemicals leach out and poison water tables, carbon footprint is horrendous, land is wasted for superstitious nonsense. Just cremate and scatter the ashes.

https://slate.com/technology/2022/10/cemeteries-drinking-tap-water-pollution-aquifers-dead-bodies.html , among others.

[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago

I want to be cremated, and then have my ashes condensed into a diamond. I want that diamond to be embedded in the hilt of a sword. I want everybody in my family for generations to be put in the same sword and then in the distant future when the zombies arise, my great great great great grandchild can break the glass and weild the blade honing the power of generations of ancestors in their hand and start lobbing off heads.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Uhh... Is it too late to change my answer?

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 8 points 2 years ago

Well, at least you've got dreams

[-] Pea666@feddit.nl 30 points 2 years ago

Or just bury people without embalming them first? As a non-American I find it super weird that it’s the norm in the US. Why would you still do that anyway?

[-] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

I think the idea is so that the empty meat vessel looks tasty and fresh for the funeral.

[-] Pea666@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago

It can look fresh enough without embalming if kept cool right? Maybe a little makeup?

[-] thlcn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Embalming? WTF?! I guess I should have watched Six feet under to learn something

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago
[-] Pea666@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know, but other than manmade laws, why?

As far as I know, it’s a US thing right? In the Netherlands embalming has been expressly prohibited up until 2009 I think. Granted, Dutch laws concerning what you can do with a dead body are pretty strict but embalming just seems weird to me.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

Other than laws? Probably, to a degree, like an unfortunate number of things in the US, money. As of 2019, the death industry was >$20 Billion industry.

Over here in the US, we're stuck in a neoliberal hellscape where profit is more important than any human being and grief-stricken families are fair game for exploitation.

[-] IamtheMorgz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I actually don't think that is true. Caitlin Dougherty on YouTube has a video on it though. It's pushed by funeral directors because it's a big money maker for them.

[-] Estiar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It has to do with Christianity. Many Christians believe that Christ will come back raising the dead and restoring their bodies

[-] Pea666@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago

I’m pretty sure most denominations of Christianity bury their dead without embalming them first and have done so for most of history.

[-] Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I've been a Christian all my life; I'm really, really sure that Christ can not only "restore" a body from nothing but make it much better than it was before. At least, I hope He plans to make it much better 😃

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[-] SlurpDaddySlushy@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Nah don't cremate. Bury the body with no box and no preservation. Get those nutrients right back into the soil as fast as possible.

[-] TurdMongler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Yes please. This is how I want to be buried. Back to the earth asap.

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[-] squeezeyerbawdy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

There are other methods becoming more widely available In the US too such as Aquamation (alkaline hydrolysis) which yields similar remains like ashes you can spread and human composting (https://recompose.life/) which don’t emit fossil fuel emissions.

Not for everyone, sure, but I wanted to be composted. I liked that I would become a cubic yard of nutrient rich soil in about 30 days and will be utilized for forest restoration.

The mushroom shroud that breaks you down is also super cool but was pretty out of my price range.

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

Fucking bullshit that I can't have my relatives eat my corpse when I'm dead. Land of the free my (glazed and roasted) ass

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you amputate a bit beforehand you can enjoy some with them.

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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 years ago

I highly recommend checking out the catacombs in Paris. It gives you a very clear understanding about what humans do to graveyards when they want the space. There are literally millions of skeletons just thrown down there. Some are stacked in interesting ways, like walls of femurs and piles of skulls. But the vast, vast majority are just heaped into big ass piles of random bones.

Personally, visiting them sold me on the idea of cremation. Otherwise, it's only a matter of time before your graveyard is getting dug up and they're throwing your remains in a pile with some randos.

Yeah fuck randos. They smell.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Being part of a big pile of bones that can freak out tourists is actually convincing me that being buried is better than being cremated.

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[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

Yes, one day the whole world is going to be a big graveyard.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Kinda already is a big graveyard

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I've got a bunch of bones out in the yard right now

[-] valek879@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I'm doing my part!

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago

No, because most people are cremated these days, and over time bones deteriorate. Plus, we can always make new graveyards.

But the big thing is that old graveyards are often “relocated” — the marked graves are dug up and the contents stacked/put closer together with any gravestones or markers stuck closer together above ground.

[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

Eventually even bones decay, unless fossilized, and fossilized bones are just, well, fancy rocks. So it's not like human remains stick around forever.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

It's not even THAT long. 30-100 years, depending on the environment

[-] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

There was a panic here in Vancouver (known for it's out of control real estate market) this year and burial plots were going for like $90,000 IIRC.

Don't be too poor to die.

[-] Pizza@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Well now I'm gonna die with $89,000 just to see what'd happen

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[-] optimal 10 points 2 years ago

rocks break. humans biodegrade. so no.

[-] Kengaro0@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

We'll just go 12 feet under

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

The Jewish Cemetery of Prague has up to a dozen layers because of the tight Jewish Quarter.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even if we fill every bit of earth with dead bodies, we still have other planets and the empty vacuum of space itself to put them. So no.

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