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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago
[-] Tiral@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Anytime I see these posts I have to chuckle to myself. Living in China for 5 years myself, if you trust a single thing the CCP releases, you're already screwed. Could this be true? Maybe, it's possible. That's the problem with lying about everything, and there's no independent anything to verify what they're actually coming up with, and it disclosed to anyone.

I'm sure most countries fudge numbers to a degree, China just makes them up half the time, literally. For example, their official covid death amount is 120,000 or so, but it's close to a million or more. Like I said, I'm sure countries fudge this number to some extent, but 10x is pure BS.

[-] stumu415@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

China spent trillion dollars alone in renewable energy just in 2025. There is no comparison anymore especially since the current US regime only believes in oil and beautiful coal.

Not to mention the advancements in EV's, pharmaceutical, nuclear energy.

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@cryptoandcoffee/china-invested-1-trillion-on-renewable-energy-last-year-dqc

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Keep in mind that the Chinese scientists have a lower pay than their American counterparts. And that sourcing materials in China is usually cheaper. So even an equal amount of spending already means a lot more research in China.

[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

The federal government is no longer the largest spender in R&D: It funded about 40% of basic research in 2022, while the business sector performed roughly 78% of U.S. R&D. While not a problem in itself, industry has simultaneously withdrawn from open scientific publication over the past four decades, shifting from research toward development. The result is a shrinking pool of openly shared scientific knowledge precisely as public investment in it also contracts.

In US research spending has pretty much served to manufacture monopolies and patents for wallstreet and if they land onto something major, they can then proceed to collect royalties from the world for next X decades. You generally can't patent a new law of nature or something, so of course they shift away from basic research. Too bad the engineering and other sciences need that groundwork too.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

while the business sector performed roughly 78% of U.S. R&D

The private sector has already begun pivoting R&D to China too.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Geez if only some billionaire who gave a shit about science and America could have seen this coming.

[-] Miller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The US was never very natively scientific but it saw the power of science and so bought, imported and kidnapped its scientists. It no longer sees things so clearly but China has 20/20.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is so much giving them credit. They're driven by prestige, patriotism, expectations of being on top by 2049, and the fact that their students and researchers were banished by the anti-immigrant policies and hubris of the Trump regime, as the imperialists have taken themselves to destroy America in piecemeal fashion.

Also, I see that the 50-cent army has arrived in Lemmy.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago

Don’t you think it’s time we stop claiming China is bluffing?

Every time they do something, there is always some sinister reason for it. “Ghost cities”, “trains to nowhere”, aggression in the South China Sea towards Taiwan. And every time, it turns into a nothingburger.

Those Ghost cities? A few failed but most of them are filled and vibrant. Those people would be living in poverty a generation ago. High speed rail? They have more high speed rail than the entirety of the United States has of ALL rail.

It’s time to stop treating China as something we can lie away. They’re winning, and they’re winning big. America has been exposed as the “paper tiger” that it is. We could have kept going but between the crimes of our past finally catching up to us and the oligarchs seeing the writing on the wall and trying to cash out or capture what’s left; I’m afraid the ol red white and blue is actually cooked.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They’re winning, and they’re winning big.

I'm not buying it. There still remains an awful wealth gap and hence class conflict only skillfully hidden by state propaganda.

As someone living in a country so close to Mainland China, and having survived a fuckhat named Duterte who called himself a president but was also running a massive meth business while allowing Xi to "invest" and but Triad-wannabes mostly on offshore gambling, we are still being asked to exchange one hegemony with another, a hegemony demanding that their "nine-dash" BS be recognized as "legitimate and unshakeable".

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 6 points 3 days ago

This is so much giving them credit.

Yeah. A large pay of their strategy is to make a rational long term plan, stick to it, and let their competitors do stupid things.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh, sure, they're that confident. All the while their government go to insane lengths to hide their home-grown class struggle, you know, the gap between the haves and have-nots.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We should give credit where its deserved. Also every country wants to be #1, nobody is at the end of the day.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Propaganda! The US spends at ton of money on research. They search for new ways to protect pedophiles fuck the world.

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