Youtube Anti-AntiAdblocker uBlock Origin Filter : piracy

[-] queue 184 points 2 years ago

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOG/alphabet/gross-profit

Alphabet gross profit for the quarter ending June 30, 2023 was $42.688B, a 7.85% increase year-over-year.

Alphabet gross profit for the twelve months ending June 30, 2023 was $160.503B, a 1.7% increase year-over-year.

Alphabet annual gross profit for 2022 was $156.633B, a 6.77% increase from 2021.

Alphabet annual gross profit for 2021 was $146.698B, a 50.01% increase from 2020.

Alphabet annual gross profit for 2020 was $97.795B, a 8.71% increase from 2019.

Huh, they seemingly have money to not fuck our eyes without lube for ads, but I guess they somehow just don't have enough money, 156 billion dollars is really nothing after all. Probably more money in between my couch cushions. Such a small indie company that has to struggle to remain afloat, like an Etsy store.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 53 points 2 years ago

BIG NUMBER MUST GO UP

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 22 points 2 years ago

MUST APPEASE THE GOD OF CAPITALISM AND THE ALMIGHTY SHAREHOLDERS!

[-] Gormadt 31 points 2 years ago

Of course they don't have enough money

The goal is (as always) to have all the money

[-] zepheriths@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Yes but does YouTube it's self make money? There isn't a reason to run a section of your company if it costs you money.

I am not justifying 17 ads in a 10 minute video, but no company keeps a product that doesn't make money

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

There isn't a reason to run a section of your company if it costs you money.

It's funny that you say this, because Google intentionally ran YouTube without making any profit from it for many years. The goal (which they succeeded in) was to starve out any competition and establish YouTube as the online video monopoly. Ever since establishing that monopoly, they've been squeezing more and more money out of the platform knowing that social inertia will work against any would-be competitors (everything is on YouTube, all of the content creators are on YouTube, all of the viewers are on YouTube, so how does someone convince enough people to move to another platform?).

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

That's how they're able to pull this anti-adblock nonsense, in fact. If they hadn't killed off all competitors, everyone would just be going to them.

[-] grumpyrico@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

True but data collection is still done and generates $$$

Think about gmail & Google docs

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[-] Conwork@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

This phenomenon is normally created by a bunch of mid level people without many stock options trying to get promotions. They need the big arrow to go up to get a good raise, be recognized, etc in their individual business units.

The people pushing things to go up are typically not motivated by the gross number as much as they are making their boss happy enough to pay them more. That's why the change is all that matters.

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[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 161 points 2 years ago

I could tolerate ONE ad per video, at the beginning, but 3 or 4 ads in a less than ten minute video? Fuck that.

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago

You see YouTube is a American company and in America every thing is extreme you ether have a lot of ads or no ads you can have a extremely massive car or a cat that's soo small it doesn't exist

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 years ago

But... But... What If I want a large cat and a tiny car?

I want my leopard riding shotgun in my smart car.

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[-] raubarno@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago

I could only tolerate ElectroBoom-style "This video is sponsored by oscilloscope company" ads.

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[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

That's the thing.

You're already proud to lower your standards, why not lower them further?

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[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 96 points 2 years ago

This entire shitty ad model these companies have pushed onto the net needs to go. Seriously. Find a better way to monetize your world.

[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 90 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not even just the Internet. Marketing fucks up every aspect of our civilization. We can't even handle having a professional election anymore without trashy ads and people acting like children. You can't even watch legitimate news anymore. ...nevermind mind whack kids pranking people on YouTube being used and turning into assholes for YouTube monetization.

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[-] Norgur@kbin.social 35 points 2 years ago

This answer confuses me. The message on that pop up is "buy YouTube premium, so you won't be stuck in our ad supported model" and now we're ranting that they need to find another model to finance themselves? Isn't YouTube premium exactly that?

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Paying to remove ads is part of the ad business model. Upset your customer enough until they give you money to make it stop. Once you pay to remove the ads you have rewarded them for implementing ads which lets them know that implementing ads was a great way at making money.

So YouTube premium is not another model. It is the same model. Another model is paying for a service that never had ads at all such as NebulaTV or CuriosityStream.

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

So "pay or you don't get shit" is okay, but "pay or see ads, your choice" is bad somehow?

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Somehow? Paying to remove ads is rewarding ads thus causing more ads in the world. It's not mysterious at all.

There are plenty of ways to not make it an all or nothing service, but that is at least the most straight forward. You could potentially give some of it away and then have to pay for the rest. Or have some stuff for free and more premium content is paid for. Or perhaps based on bandwidth with video quality / resolution.

Anything that is not ads is going to be an improvement.

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[-] Kuro@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You're right, but premium is too expensive. They make a pittance per ad view, but expect a user to pay $14/m to get rid of them? The math doesn't math.

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

They simultaneously introduced this ad blocker change and took away the $5 no-ads package.

This is a shakedown and it's been happening across many streaming platforms for a while now.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't mind ads as a concept. The issue is how invasive and numerous they've become. Get back to the days when ads were just banners around the actual content or an easily skippable video that plays before what I'm trying to watch and I'll happily disable my ad blocker for you. Unfortunately hardly anyone does that anymore because they view it as a missed opportunity to make even more money.

I'm not against using ads to support websites but it's the same basic concept as piracy. If you make the experience of playing by the rules so unbearable that it seems easier to go out of my way to break them then I probably will.

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[+] NiaTheCat 83 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Nah.

I shouldn't have to watch any ads on an already-profitable product. Accepting less is just me lowering my standards so people richer than me can be even richer.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

It's more than that. Would you devote 1-5% of your PC resources to others while you watch a video, if you could watch a video without ads? Yes. I bet so.

We are able to easily shoulder the burdens of hosting, yet Google wants to dominate us and force us to use their hosting at the psychological cost of being their sponge for anyone's paid information campaign. YouTube in 2016 was non-stop Trump ads. Non fucking stop.

FUCK Google.

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[-] Amity_Noceda@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago

They're going to randomize all vars and function names, mark my words.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Yup. Ad blockers work on pattern matching rules. Countering them might take some work but it's not impossible - make the URLs that do the bad shit indistinguishable from the ones that make the video works and likewise html elements. Randomise everything, make the paths to things unpredictable. I'm sure YouTube could even merge the ads into the content stream so they are unavoidable.

[-] abcxyz@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

"I'm sure YouTube could even merge the ads into the content stream so they are unavoidable."

Who is going to tell him?

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[-] spiderman@ani.social 10 points 2 years ago

it will be an interesting cat and mouse game or people will start to shift to another video sharing platform

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Of course they are, for example when targeting HTML elements you generally need to target text not vars or function names.

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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Your turn google

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How long until youtube add an anti-anti-anti-adblocker?

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[-] backhdlp 26 points 2 years ago

I miss 3 days ago when the blockade was just some HTML

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Anytime you all want to go back to making your own websites

Anytime

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[-] A10@kerala.party 15 points 2 years ago

Let the cat and mouse games begin!!!! Thanks for the heads up though

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

Get your FreeTube subs set up and ready to go. https://freetubeapp.io/

[-] mouth_brood@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago

Is the any way to add something like this to my pihole to block all this shit network wide?

[-] denissimo@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago

Pihole, if i understand correctly, works by blocking DNS requests and YouTube ads are not DNS based the way ads usually are. You're stuck blocking them by uBO on each device or use Invidious.

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[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 11 points 2 years ago

Semi-related: what's a good frontend for android TV? I'm loving NewPipe on my phone, but on the TV it refuses to work in full screen and often in not-full screen too..

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 19 points 2 years ago

SmartTubeNext is your best bet, I think Libretube devs will be working on landscape support too sometime, but that's probably very far away

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