You boycott Eurovision because they allow Israel to participate
I boycott Eurovision because it promotes shitty music
We are not the same
You boycott Eurovision because they allow Israel to participate
I boycott Eurovision because it promotes shitty music
We are not the same
That's not the flex you think it is.
You choosing to vocalise your taste in music over your stance on genocide, especially considering you plan on not watching it anyway ...
Even if you end up kicking Izrael out or Eurovision or even killing Eurovision entirely, I don't believe that will save even a single Palestinian life.
It won't, but at least it also will deny the genocidal maniacs a propaganda platform where they can present themselves as cultured and civilised.
And that's where we disagree. I don't believe anyone looks civilised or cultured at Eurovision.
I despised Eurovision long before Israel became genocidal maniacs. Don't get me wrong I also despise what Israel is doing right now. I just don't believe boycotting Eurovision will do anything about it, and I don't like empty gestures.
Lemme guess, you're also fine with Israeli tourists hanging around your city?
I would be very suspicious about ANY tourists hanging out in my city. But let's imagine there is a valid reason for a tourist to be here, in that case, it all depends on how they behave.
Please consider that you are suggesting that I should discriminate against an entire group of people based on their ethnicity, that's basically what Israel does right now... In the extreme form.
Yes, that discrimination would include some genocidal maniacs but might just as well include oppositionists fighting the regime (running away from the oppressive government would explain why they ended up in my city), and is the most probable to just target some random guy who's biggest fault is not stopping their government from turning insane, and there are a lot of people in the world guilty of that lately.
Is your government completely sane right now?
Please consider that you are suggesting that I should discriminate against an entire group of people based on their ethnicity
Not ethnicity, just nationality. I very clearly said Israeli, not Jew. See, this kind of narrative that blurs the line between nation and ethnicity is how they've been getting away calling all of their critics antisemitic. In a way, by using this argument, you're supporting genocide.
Is your government completely sane right now?
Now, you're using whataboutism. But I'll entertain you on this one. Sadly, no government is ever completely sane. As for today most of them are far from being remotely sane. However, only a few of these are blatantly committing ethnic cleansing.
Not ethnicity, just nationality.
Should I go around my city and ask all tourists (both of them) to show me their passports to discriminate them based on their nationality?
Now, you're using whataboutism
It's not whataboutism. I'm not implying that we should ignore what Israel is doing because {put any wrongdoing by the USA, Russia, Palestine, Iran, etc. here}.
I was trying to show, that it is really difficult for an individual to stop the country from going insane, and I refuse to punish random tourists without any proof that they are supporting what their government does.
We went a long way if you consider that it all started because I used a meme format to say that I hate Eurovision. I actually think that banning ANY country from it, would be beneficial for that country.
I fully support your hate to what Israel does I just don't think this will help. I will happily be proven wrong.
"can you believe those people can't separate the art from the artist when it comes to genocide? also i hate ABBA for reasons i will not disclose"
Good, I love that this is gaining more and more traction. I've been boycotting it for a few years now l and truly miss the event.
It used to be a great force of European unity but now has just turned sour and is promoting the opposite. You could unite over the trashy music, the hate for it, the love for it or just the general vibe. There is something there for everyone.
I'm not at all opposed to worldwide participation (e.g. Australia, or when Celine was there for France) but genocidal warmongers can not be welcomed at an event that is supposed to promote peace and unity.
There remains hope for 2027
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