47
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by batshit@lemmy.world to c/homeassistant@lemmy.world

I would like to turn on mood lighting automatically when I'm taking a shower, what's the best way to detect that?

  • I've considered humidity sensors, but that will take a while to kick in and not immediately when the shower starts.
  • I've also considered a water leak sensor but those are not meant to be trigger every day for a long time like 10-15 minutes. That would kill the battery, right?
  • Smart valves can kind of work, but it feels like overkill because I don't care about the valve functionality.

I would prefer the solution to be battery powered (don't want to be messing with too many cables around a shower), but I can't seem to find one.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] med@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

The right way is some sort of inline water flow sensor, so it'll trigger within seconds of you turning on the shower to warm it up. With an esp32 and a sensor, and some clever use of the sleep function, it'd probably last a year or so on a couple of AA's.

Low effort and price tech is probably better in a wet environment though! If you just want the mood lighting, get a wireless button and stick it somewhere near. Tap it on, tap it off!

If you want to feel that automatic magic, consider a cheap battery powered temperature sensor. If you fix the chassis to the shower head pipe it'd probably be accurate enough. Also, assuming you need to wait for your shower to heat up, you'd have a pretty good idea when your shower was hot too - when it triggers your automation for the lights!

Just make sure the sensor polls often enough or can be made to report on a significant temperature difference in a timely fashion. Something like this might do it: https://sonoff.tech/products/sonoff-zigbee-temperature-and-humidity-sensor-snzb-02p

Also avoid WiFi for buttons, connection and addressing takes ages and sicks for an instant response needed for something like lighting changes

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Multiple waterproof 4k cameras pointed at the inside of your shower from every angle and image recognition by some AI that detects when a naked person enters.

Don't forget to use Wifi and no firewall

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

If someone wants to see my hairy ass they better have a 4k view of it

[-] eleijeep@piefed.social 43 points 2 weeks ago

Made a flowchart for you:

< Do you feel wet? >  
     |  
     +-- yes --> < are you indoors? >  
     |                |  
     |                +-- yes --> < are you wearing pants? >  
     |                |                      |  
     |                |                      +-- yes --> [ you peed yourself ]  
     |                |                      |  
     |                |                      +-- no --> [ you're taking a shower ]  
     |                |  
     |                +-- no --> [ it's raining ]  
     |  
     +-- no --> [ you are not taking a shower ]  

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

You could use a classic dead man switch: Place several buttons around the whole place - basically everywhere except in the shower. Once you stop pressing any of these buttons for - let's say - 30 seconds you can assume you're taking a shower.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Ravi@feddit.org 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Without trying something similar yet, here are some ideas:

  • motion sensor on top of your shower
  • trying to detect the vibration of the water flow
  • a simple switch that you hit before you get into the shower

Also think of other times you "use" the shower, like cleaning it. Some methods will also be triggered then.

[-] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago

Also think of other times you “use” the shower, like cleaning it. Some methods will also be triggered then.

Yep. Sometimes these automations with all exceptions get so complicated that it's easier to just put a small button somewhere.

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Good ideas, let's see

motion sensor on top of your shower

That'll detect my shower area motion not when shower in on. When I am cleaning the shower or sitting in a bathtub I don't want mood lighting or other automations to be triggered.

trying to detect the vibration of the water flow

Vibration sensor can work but it's a ceiling shower so I'll have to see if I have enough space. This is the closest to a viable solution given my situation.

a simple switch that you hit before you get into the shower

Yeah that's a fallback option, but I try to automate my home whenever I can and not perform manual tasks. I know my groggy morning self is forgetting to even hit this simple switch.

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

I would put a temperature sensor on the line feeding to your shower to trigger on a temperature rise, but it all depends whether it's accessible somewhere. Setting your trigger to something like 33 degrees would mean it only triggers on warm showers, cold showers you're on your own.

[-] notabot@piefed.social 16 points 2 weeks ago

If you have a shower cubicle, could you put a door open sensor on it, and assume you're showering if the door is closed? I think it's normal to leave the doir open when not in use. It would probably also work if you had a shower curtain, so long as you always pulled it all the way closed in use.

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I normally keep the door closed, but this is an elegant solution and I think I can work with this. Just gotta change my habit a bit

[-] omarthemediocre@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I would just go with special button, the most straightforward simple solution you have direct control over. Also sometimes you might need to use the shower without mood lights and then system based on humidity or water flow will just be annoyance.

If you use some tools when showering, like brush or spung, you can make a contact sensor into the hook/holder (more work, probably need a custom 3D print), but should also work and you don't need to press anything

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I experimented with a humidity sensor in the shower and was surprised how quickly it spiked. It's how I woud do it. Other option would be a leak sensor in the basin but getting it to turn off at the right time would be very hard. You have a lot more control over this with a humidity sensor.

I'm using zwave for everything like this and wouldn't be at all concerned about battery for either scenario. Both would last years, much like my door and window sensors do.

[-] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Are u nekkid, but warm, and wet? You're in the shower.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

I bet you can rig up something microphone-based, there's tons of software nowadays for analyzing audio, and you don't need to run the analyzing software on the device with the microphone anyway. Though the analyzing would likely take a little bit longer that you'd want it to.

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Microphone is certainly an interesting choice I hadn't thought of before at all. It's something I can test easily, I'll have to see how well it plays with music too. I'll give it a shot

[-] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

How about a simple on off toggle inside your shower handle? Stupid simple and works anytime the waters turned on.

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I ... Didn't think of that. I don't have a lever shower but placing a simple button inside the niche for toiletries is such a simple solution. I'll look for some IP67 buttons.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I feel tricked…

[-] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 5 points 2 weeks ago

I would use something like this to measure water usage in combination with an presence sensor in the shower stall. Water flowing + someone present in shower stall = someone taking a shower.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is a fun question.

I have to assume the absolute ideal would be some sort of water flow detection right in line with the shower head. Likely hard wired. But like I said, that’s an ideal.

I think the other suggestions in the thread are reasonable. The microphone one seems most appealing to me since that could theoretically just occupy an outlet anywhere in the room.

[-] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

A waterflow sensor makes the most sense to me too, but it doesn't have to be inside the pipes. A microphone glued to a pipe should be able to detect the vibrations due to waterflow and hardly anything else.

Perhaps combine with a motion sensor to see if the lights should be on at all. Then the microphone only switches between modes.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You could also use the drain pipe if the actual water pipe is harder to reach. It would even work against false positives (I can clearly hear the washing machine letting in water through my water pipes)…

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I use a humidity sensor, motion sensor and a helper that shows the change over a period of time. If the humidity raises fast (+2%/5m) and goes over a certain amount (unique, depending on your room's climate) the bathroom automation changes tracks to hold the light at 100%, turn the extractor fan on, and well, how you stop the automation depends on you. I let it stay on for 15 minutes before waiting for motion. Small tips: For me the humidity triggers the automation within 15s-1m of showering, which is okay for me. Motion sensors typically use IR to see movement. If the room is too steamy it might struggle to see you. Also, it cannot penetrate glass. It must have a line of sight to you.

The best alt I think would be mmwave presence sensors, but they're pricy and require a wired connection.

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I already have a presence sensor (Tuya) in my bathroom. Maybe I can use that + humidity sensor, everyone is saying it's faster than you expect so I'll give it a shot.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Flowmeter on the shower head or down in the supply lines to the tub/shower?

[-] DecentM 4 points 2 weeks ago

Couple ideas, depending on what you have:

  • When the warm water pipe heats up
  • when the water heater starts drawing more power
  • when the water meter detects warm water usage in the evening
  • when the sound volume goes up in the bathroom
  • when the weight sensors go off under the shower (or around it as you get in)
  • when a movement sensor detects movement in the shower
  • when a magnetic door sensor sees the shower curtains open
  • when you press a (waterproof) button in the shower
  • when a weight sensor under the shampoo holder detects less weight
[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure if you have access to the pipes leading to the shower, but the droplet does what you're looking to do.

https://hydrificwater.com/

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

If you have a shower door: use a door/window sensor (on the outside). Trigger the mood light if the door was open for only a couple of seconds.

Still more complicated than hitting a switch, tho, IMHO.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Would a battery powered smart switch be an option?

Hit the switch and let HA do a command series.

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's a fallback option, but I try to automate my home whenever I can and not perform manual tasks. I know my groggy morning self is forgetting to even hit this simple switch.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm using just humidity and its working great. I put the sensor away from my sink so it isn't triggered by washing my hands.

This will only consider you showering if humidity goes 9% above the 1hr average humidity:

You need a 'Statistics' Helper, call it "Average Bathroom Humidity" and base it on whatever humidity sensor you have. Make it "average linear" then set Max Age to 1 hour. (leave other options default)

Make this Template Binary Sensor called "Showering":

{{ (states('sensor.bathroom_sensor_humidity')|float - states('sensor.average_bathroom_humidity')|float) > 9 }}

[-] nhoizey@mamot.fr 2 points 2 weeks ago

@batshit I use a derivative of a humidity sensor, it works well enough and is really simple to set up.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I would go for a simple humidity sensor. You just need to do a bit of data collection first to get a baseline of "what taking a shower usually looks like" and then based on that create the automation.

The only problem with that is that depending on how accurate you want it to be, you may have to wait a while to take a few measurements until it triggers the automation.

For something like mood lights I would just use a ZigBee switch if I'm being honest though.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Crossposted from showerthoughts

[-] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Your individual shower habits might be predictable enough to if than your way to it with existing sensors.

If you track current draw on your boiler / water heater that would indicate a draw on hot water during time when you typically shower. You can add other checks for it to pass if you find too many false positives.

If you’re as glued to your phone as every one else alive atm a simple rfid / wireless charger or something you set your phone on when you strip for the shower triggering the event will likely be the most straight forward approach unless you bring your phone in the shower lol I’m occasionally guilty if the podcast is good enough 😅

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 weeks ago

Vibration sensor that detects when water starts flowing through the shower head

[-] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

mmwave sensor, humidity sensor, and/or monitoring your water heater power usage. any of those 2 should work.

I am actively working on a bunch of ML algorithms for home assistant for exactly this type of thing, detecting 'activity' per room.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

OK, assuming your switch is also smart

Option 1: long-press/double function turns on both light and fan, that triggers an "I am going to shower" 5 minute delay where a humidity sensor senses when it is over and keeps the fan on until humidity is stabilized with the rest of the house.

Option 2: get a smart flow meter instead of a smart valve. Then you have useful statistics for shower water usage in addition to an instantaneous status. This has the side effect of the mood lighting turning on "late"

Option 3: get one or make an esphome + LD2410S on battery or plugged in close by, nobody goes in the shower for more than like 10 seconds without showering

Option 4: Time of Flight sensor outside of the shower pointing in to tell when the door/curtain is closed. If the ToF sensor is (for example) between 1.1m and 1.2m, the door/curtain is closed

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 02 Apr 2026
47 points (100.0% liked)

homeassistant

19220 readers
37 users here now

Home Assistant is open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first.
Powered by a worldwide community of tinkerers and DIY enthusiasts.

Home Assistant can be self-installed on ProxMox, Raspberry Pi, or even purchased pre-installed: Home Assistant: Installation

Discussion of Home-Assistant adjacent topics is absolutely fine, within reason.
If you're not sure, DM @GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS