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[-] infinitevalence@discuss.online 135 points 4 months ago

Production costs!

The expanse did this well because they used acceleration not artificial gravity.

[-] Sephtis@lemmy.world 76 points 4 months ago

Expanse did it amazingly imo, it also adds some realism into a otherwise very fictional story, which makes it somewhat easier to vibe with it.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

Gawwwd, the scene where mid fight there are unsecured wrenches floating around was so beautifully tense.

[-] manxu@piefed.social 44 points 4 months ago

"Captain, we were hit by a Class IV Photon torpedo in the aft. The production budget exploded!"

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 18 points 4 months ago
[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

That was such a nice touch and just cost some red leds. I'm the books they spend a lot of time on the float (to expensive to burn all the time). The way the TV show got around it all was great

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 4 months ago

Don't forget the sound, that clunk with every step is what sold it as real.

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Just flip around halfway and start slowing down! Free acceleration / deceleration gravity.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Well, not free. Acceleration usually requires a bunch of energy.

I guess if you have to do it anyway then it's a really convenient side-effect.

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[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 70 points 4 months ago

THE EXPANSE

GO WATCH IT!

No stupid gimmicky "artificial gravity" horseshit, the "gravity" is caused by acceleration and deceleration.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

Which is fucking cool because it's one of the few space travel things that really does work. Like if we can figure out the fuel/propulsion thing and some kind of equivalent to deflector shields (not for space battles but for all the random shit in space that could destory your ship in a collision, especially if we get up to relativistic speeds), we could have space travel where you can walk around normally on the ship.

Also the gravity increasing ships like Goku used in DBZ, so we could actually have someone doing extreme gravity training while en route to a big fight.

And it works for both acceleration and deceleration, only difference is you're either travelling up or down.

Also loved the special seats they used when doing combat maneuvers. ST didn't just make up artificial gravity (since their ships moved forwards rather than up), they had inertial dampeners, because the evasive maneuvers would have been much more dangerous than the shocks from getting hit.

ST is more rooted in science than SW, but parts of it are just as much fantasy as the force, which was depressing to realize when you're hoping for humanity to eventually go in that direction. The biggest human tech fantasy in the Expanse is an engine upgrade that gives improved thrust and efficiency. Not to light speed, but just by like an order of magnitude. And they've even got a brutally realistic scene about the discovery that was great world building imo.

[-] Alberat@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

the expanse is the only universe where Epstein actually killed himself

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I mean, gravity is just acceleration anyway.

Weird fucking acceleration due to the curvature of spacetime and how shit moves through time. But still, just acceleration.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 6 points 4 months ago

To be fair; if you could build a fusion torch and fully direct the flow; aneutronic fusion fits the bill; the thrust numbers they are using are not crazy.

You would use stupid amount of fuel to get that much delta-v; but with advanced reactors using readily available fuel sources....maybe not an issue.

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[-] Clasm@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Up until the space magic bullshit, anyway.

[-] SirActionSack@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago

So disappointing when the hand waving started.

[-] reptar@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well the show didn't finish the story.

E: though, it didn't get less "magical", just more explained in a soft-scifi sense.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago

Spin up the drum.

[-] ns1@feddit.uk 35 points 4 months ago

Who else is thinking of that one scene near the start of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country?

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Or Star Trek: First Contact, when Picard, Worf, and redshirt Neil McDonough test out their zero G combat training, further cementing the fact that Star Trek only remembers that space has no gravity when it's relevant to the plot.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They do throw things out the airlock an awful lot. Though, somehow, Borg don’t have the strength to stop it but Beverly Crusher does.

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Beverly Crusher fucked a ghost. She can do anything.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

My wife abused star trek of being a soap opera at some point. At first I thought, maybe she's just showing up at the worst possible time?

No. It's all of the time. Every episode has some weird soapy bullshit. Beverly fucking a ghost, LaForge fucking a hologram, Riker fucking anything with genitals INCLUDING a hologram. Everybody be fuckin. That's not even the soapiest thing. Voyager is basically Soaps in space.

I love classic trek, but guys I think it's a soap opera.

[-] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

guys I think it's a soap opera

It always was, but it was our soap opera with spaceships and laser guns.

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[-] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 months ago

Admit it, you wanted to ask which movies and shows have done it. Instead of asking for people to tell you what the correct answer is, it’s far more effective to post the wrong answer, and wait for the flood of answers to arrive.

[-] early_riser@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Someone has spent a lot of time on Linux forums

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[-] tgirlschierke 5 points 4 months ago

Ah, Murphy's Law in action.

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[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

"Gravity plating!" As long as there is floor, you're good.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

Magnetic shoes?

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[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Gravity is a very dense liquid. Generator makes it in big batches at a time and it just stays there for long even after the generator is gone. After the battle is done and everything is repaired, they just top up the pool and all is good.

[-] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Gravy. You're thinking of gravy.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Well, now I am

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[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Thanks, Calvin's dad

[-] jaycifer@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

On a space station more than a space battle, but Titan AE had a scene that made good use of this. The station is old, and early in the scene the gravity generator goes on the fritz, causing everyone to float until some percussive maintenance gets it working again. When bad guys show up Matt Damon shoots the generator to cause some confusion and let him escape faster by pushing off toward the exit.

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[-] XiberKernel@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Gravity is on a separate subsystem & power supply, because without gravity people couldn’t reasonably move and fix the rest of the ship, so even when compared to general life support, it’s the most critical function and the most isolated.

And production cost.

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[-] early_riser@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Doylist explanation: it would be too expensive for the FX department.

As it happens, the same worldbuilding project I mentioned in another post here sort of addresses this. The same aliens mentioned there don’t use artificial gravity at all. Being arboreal creatures they’re well suited to microgravity and can happily live permanently in zero G. Upon meeting humans and learning that we want artificial gravity (specifically centrifugal gravity), they wonder why we spent all the effort to get away from gravity only to spend even more effort to bring it back.

Since human orbital colonies take the form of O’Neil cylinders, you can cut off the gravity by halting the cylinder’s rotation. If stopped abruptly enough this would cause a lot of damage initially as objects go flying. It would also put the terrestrial, bipedal humans at a disadvantage compared to the aliens with five prehensile extremities.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

I am a big fan of sci-fi and understand how expensive weightlessness is to film, so combine that with the amount of shows that have been canceled and I completely accept the fact that they try to keep this more fictional than science.

[-] ColonelThirtyTwo@pawb.social 7 points 4 months ago

Titan AE

"Just think of it as floaty time!"

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[-] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country did it, even making it a point during the Trial ;-)

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 6 points 4 months ago

If it were expected to be more than a 1 in 1000 risk, they would probably have handles on the walls and ceilings to help move about during an emergency.

[-] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 6 points 4 months ago

What you’re really saying is there aren’t enough big budget sci fi things to watch.

[-] Griffus@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

That's why I prefer hard SciFi like The Expanse books, where science is a main driver to life and motivations to drive the story.

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[-] TarnFan@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

They did in the first episode of Transformers Animated. Granted, that was a cartoon, which made it infinitely easier to have them float in zero gravity than a live action movie.

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[-] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 4 points 4 months ago

Cough, Undiscovered Country.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Even when the life support systems have completely lost power, everyone is dying, etc. Gravity is the one system too critical to reroute.

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