Racism in the United States is astonishing. As a non-American, until Obama’s time, I used to think that, there was just some institutional racism left over from past decades and a few extremists in the South—but not much else. After Obama, it’s incredible how most white people have become extremely right-wing extremists, all because of a single president of mixed descent. Now, the problem seems enormous, and a solution doesn’t appear to be anywhere in sight.
I’m a white American from the northeast and I felt the same way. When trump won the first time, it felt like I’d just discovered that the floor underneath my bed was rotting away.
I was blind to it because I didn’t need to see it, but it was always there. My relative privilege insulated me and ensured that I contributed to the problem
As an American I feel exactly the same. There absolutely were holdouts of racism, but I felt we were moving forward and leaving them behind. Obama’s presidency set the stage, then trump and covid set everything on fire and the mask came off. “Draining the swamp” just meant revealing the scum at the bottom of it and setting it free. I was shocked at how many racist, petty, selfish, aggressively ignorant people there are in the US.
We were racist long before Obama.
And what country are you from where racism is not an issue?
After Obama, it’s incredible how most white people have become extremely right-wing extremists
That hasn’t been my anecdotal observation. Obama’s election definitely freaked out the existing White racists and motivated them to get more politically active, but I haven’t seen non-racist Whites suddenly become racist because a Black man finally got elected president. Where are you seeing this? Better yet, is there research or polling data documenting it?
I think it's more that a lot of racists hid it rather than openly reveling in it like they do now.
Seeing Americans label Obama as the most “divisive” president was eye opening…
Meanwhile, Trump was saying Obama isn’t even a US citizen! All while specific persons are saying Obama is dividing the nation…
It’s disgusting…
46% of Latinos voted for trump. We really need to battle the billionaire owned propaganda Machine
Many Latinos are super religious. It’s not just the billionaire propaganda machine it’s centuries of indoctrination from the Catholic Church. Even if the billionaire propaganda machine didn’t exist and every news media outlet is factual, independent and transparent many will still vote for an R because of their religious beliefs.
The Catholic Church is openly opposed to this administration so a vote for Trump was a vote against the pope so nice try but no
I'd be more interested to see how many more/less white/black women voted red/blue compared to previous years rather than the ratio of those who did.
That kind of contextual information is useful, but beware of anybody giving it to you without the bigger context of absolute numbers before and after. Liberal media loves using shifts like this to imply there's a bunch of centrists who decided to change which way they're leaning instead of "dems failed to improve the material conditions for their constituents, so fewer people voted dem. Meanwhile 12 black business owners voted republican instead of 6, an increase of 100%"
In 2016, CNN and MSNBC spent months using that type of framing to blame black people for Hillary's loss, essentially calling them ungrateful, homophobic, sexist, conservatives.
Nothing more disgusting than a woman or minority that votes conservative.
What kind of human enjoys having a boot on their neck?
Disclaimer: the following is just my opinion and not to be taken as gospel. This is not financial advice.
The hope for them is that one day, after proving their ability to suffer a boot upon their neck, they will have proved themselves worthy to put their boot on someone's neck.
How does one perpetuate slavery?
Turn some of the slaves into masters.
US feminism is mostly centering on the issues of white, middle-class women, failing to fully integrate the needs of women of color, marginalized, or lower-income women. This lack of a unified approach leads to fragmented advocacy and fragmented outcomes, rather than a broad movement.
Also 53% of white women vote for trump compared to 7% of black women who voted for trump. This showed that they gave more priority to racial identify over collective welfare of all women in usa .
White feminist often ignore or won't acknowledge that in usa —specifically land ownership and early capital accumulation were built upon the exploitation of Native American and African people.
The systematic removal of Native Americans from their land provided massive amounts of property that was subsequently passed down through generations of white families, serving as a primary source of generational wealth which black women or native American women doesn't have.
The wealth generated by the labor of enslaved African people in agriculture and other industries directly enriched white slaveholders and, by extension, their present generation . Jim crows law curbed wealth generation for black women compared to white women
Wealth disparity between Black and white women in the USA is severe, with white households holding nearly 10 times the median net worth of Black households, or approximately 15 cents for every dollar. Black women face lower income, less intergenerational wealth, lower homeownership rates, and higher debt, often keeping them in lower-wage service jobs without benefits.
white feminists often ignore these issues Best example would be :-1)DEI
Despite DEI mostly benefitted white women , most of the white feminist organisation ignored whether black women benefitted or not .they doesn't cared about native American or black women . They often fail to view things from racial angle by focusing just on gender angle
2)Most of the educational scholarships are benefitted by white women over native American ,black women
Unlike Scandinavian countries where feminists became inclusive that they heavily prioritised welfare and empowerment of minority women belonging to Sami tribe community Whereas in United States , everything is just in words not in action.
Liberals like to conveniently forget that being a white woman is also a very privileged position in our society.
Most White women want to maintain their privileged position too.
That assumes they recognize the class struggle.
The problem can be exceptionalism.
Where the person thinks they started from nothing no matter how elevated their position was.
This leads to the thought that anyone below them didn't try as hard as they did and any attempts to uplift will belittle their accomplishments.
Messaging must maintain the uplifting of the entire working class. Then they will support you because the self interested have something to gain.
discrimination is not always straight forward as we think, it's a heirarchy , even one group that is discriminated is capable of discriminating others which are lower than them
White women are almost as bad as white men in the USA.
almost!?
White women tend not to be mass shooters, for instance
Don't worry, if a white woman commits a mass shooting, they'll just say she's trans & warp the rhetoric.
When you thought racism was a solved problem, but the USA absolutely has to prove you wrong.
Did anyone think racism was a solved problem?
I used to. When I was a kid in school, I figured it was a holdover from "the racist times" back in the 1960s.
Then I saw how people treated Obama. Real eye opener.
Let us not forget our fine Latino men and women. Men 50% women 43%. Another target / supporter of the government.
The Latino vote I fully understand. They are predominantly Catholic and strongly oppose abortions. The Latinos voted for ICE boots on thier neck rather than women's rights ... and they got exactly what they voted for.
Can we stop this "it actually goes back to" argument style.
Look I understand that racism is very entrenched in America from its very beginning, just like every other country on Earth. To frame an argument like that is to say through subtext that no act of reformation can ever be enough.
It reframes humans as inherently ignorant which I hope we all know isn't the case, any of us who know better only do so because we were taught to think critically.
I understand it's important to have historical context when defining issues of race and inequity but the issue comes from it being a way to sweep all talk of change under the rug.
It also gives current figures moral cover by saying that no one person is specifically responsible, letting any recent figures off the hook when they're very culpable. It frames racism as an issue of human nature which it may be but it's in tandem with ignorance, something only some of us were able to escape because of education.
It's weaponizing historical context to take away our feeling of agency which is something that has been a tactic on the right and particularly in Russia for years.
Racist rhetoric didn't begin with Trump but the scale, centrality, and normalization is like no other.
Deep roots should never be a way to absolve recent actors. So while I think historical framing is important, I think it's also important that we're mindful we don't weaponize it to both belittle our progress and erase the possibility for change.
Of course the system has systemic inequality and racism, of course we should work to change that and we should use historical context to identify the disadvantages that have been given to people and how we can fix them. But in the meantime we can still hold the people here and now accountable for what they have done to accelerate the normalization of direct racist tones.
To spend your life tracing only original sin would be to miss the nuance of how it's evolved.
One of the most important pieces of Trump's 2024 election was getting the Hispanic vote. Sure, he spent years before, during, and after his first term talking about cracking down on immigration on the southern border, talking about how all of the people coming from Mexico or further south were a bunch of criminals and drug dealers. BUT he courted the Cuban population in southern Florida - mostly the descendants of people who were wealthy enough to have their wealth redistributed by Castro. By calling Harris a communist he was able to get their votes, win Florida, and that would have made the difference in the election.
The very concept of who counts as "white" changes depending on what the racists of the time want. In the not-too-distant past, Irish and Italian people were not considered white. I still don't know if Bernie Sanders or other Jews are considered white or not.
Even for data like this... Is it really a black women vs white women issue, or is it a rich person vs poor person issue? And yes, those economic division have deep roots in the history of racism, but that doesn't explain the whole picture.
Look at the people around Trump. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is one of those Cuban south Floridians. Secretary of Labor Lori Chavez-DeRemer is a Hispanic woman. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard is part Samoan, born in Somoa. FBI Director Kash Patel is Indian - his family fled persecution in Uganada.
And then there's foreign policy. Trump seems to largely be pushing the USA away from predominantly white European countries that have historically been allies. Trying to break up NATO and undermine the EU, making threats against Canada and Greenland. Cozying up to Muhammed Bin Salman.
The people in power love when the masses fight amongst themselves.
couldn't agree more, divide and conquer taken to the world stage. Division down on race, background, employment and anything else to keep us busy while the rich rob us blind and Trump's cabinet lines their pockets
https://newrepublic.com/post/188061/white-women-harris-trump-exit-polls
Donald Trump has won the majority of white women voters for the third straight time
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-11-07/white-women-vote-donald-trump-kamala-harris
There’s no mystery. White women handed Trump the election
The answer isn’t that deep: The majority of white women in this country want a male president — preferably white. That’s not me talking; that’s nearly a century of voting data speaking.
Just wait until Project 2025 slams home and tears the shit out of women's rights. Shitheads.
Plenty of Republican women voters are post-menopausel already. Plenty are insistent that their daughters get pregnant already, or that their son's sexual partners carry a fetus to term.
This isn't a gender thing nearly so much as a class thing.
Not sure which number makes me more depressed.
most of them living in trump counties more likely. even some white woman in blue areas lean conservative, as a poc they react very wierd around pocs and not white people, giving away that they moved here from more conservative areas.
I'm pretty sure that at least the 80% of them feels like shit right now.
Racists were right, there is a relation between the color of your skin and your intelligence
I’d say empathy is more relevant here than intelligence.
Arguably that would fall under the banner of "emotional intelligence"
Didn't a significant portion of black men also vote for Trump? Or was that just the Latinos?
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