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China has approved a sweeping new law which claims to help promote "ethnic unity" - but critics say it will further erode the rights of minority groups.

On paper, it aims to promote integration among the 56 officially recognised ethnic groups, dominated by the Han Chinese, through education and housing. But critics say it cuts people off from their language and culture.

It mandates that all children should be taught Mandarin before kindergarten and up until the end of high school. Previously students could study most of the curriculum in their native language such as Tibetan, Uyghur or Mongolian.

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[-] fushuan 119 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm Basque, we are "forced" to learn Spanish too since it's a co-official language in out autonomous region of Spain.

This post might sound alarming to monolingual people, but for any multilingual that had to learn both official languages AND english, watching people complain about schools requiring extra languages is embarrassing.

Unless I'm misunderstanding the post, it doesn't imply that most lectures need to be in Mandarin, only that the kids need to be taught the language, right?

Edit: I read the post. The language thing doesn't matter, what's alarming is actually this:

The law also provides a legal basis to prosecute parents or guardians who may instil what it described as "detrimental" views in children which would affect ethnic harmony and it calls for "mutually embedded community environments".

If it were actually about language and communication, that bit wouldn't be there.

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are restrictions on teaching the Tibetan language. This seems like an authoritarian move, not an educational one.

https://thetibetpost.com/news/tibet/china-imprisons-tibetan-monk-for-six-years-for-teaching-tibetan-language

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[-] Undvik@fedia.io 14 points 1 month ago

Catalan here, always funny to see monolinguals be shocked when China does it but turn around and see nothing wrong with Spain imposing Spanish to all its regions in the same way

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[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

I think it varies in parts of Xinjiang, but in at least part of it, along with most of the rest of China, most school instruction is in Mandarin.

Everyone still speaks their native languages, but they speak mando to chinese from other places. The kids know a few english phrases too for some reason.

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[-] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago

Watch as Americans without a shred of irony decry this and then demand people in our country speak English.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 30 points 1 month ago

America is not a monolith, one group could say one statement and another say the other.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

I'm decrying this AND the racists that demand everyone speak English in America. The American racists will probably say that this is fine because it's Chinese governing Chinese, so long as they stay in China.

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[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 month ago

See, China's peacefulness and benevolence are on full display providing conquered peoples free education, and re-education!

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago
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[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago

Can we please stop with the scare quotes around terms that don’t have the same connotation in their original language? The BBC is deliberately misleading its readers by translating 民族团结 to mean “ethnic unity”. A better translation in this case would be “national solidarity” but that wouldn’t sound as scary would it?

It’s also not unreasonable for a country to require schools to teach children the common language. Knowing 普通话 (the common language) is a critical skill for any Chinese national who wants to succeed in the modern Chinese economy. Almost every state with a national language does this in some way.

Instead of falling for deliberate mistranslations, maybe look up what was actually said in Mandarin next time.

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 14 points 1 month ago

I get that this is China fearmongering, but it's also how France eroded and almost killed off the regional languages..., by stigmatizing their use in schools, posting exclusively french-speaking state workers in administrative roles, etc. under the guise of "national unity" or some other variation of it

[-] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

This seems quite different.

Rather than stigmatizing their use in schools, they actively encourage them. China maintains dual language education in these languages. Literacy rates have gone from low single digit percentages to above 90 for every minority language in China I've checked.

It's closer to how kids all over Europe were taught English. There are certainly many local dialects that are dying off but it's by choice. When I was a kid in Austria, the "Waldviertler" dialect was generally considered low-class, as was my own "Ottakringer" dialect. Those have mostly died off but there are a bunch of people who keep "Wienerisch" alive because they think it's cool.

Almost all the people I knew growing up in Austria speak English. It's the language of business, TV, and Rock 'n' Roll. My dad thinks it's cool when he can speak Shanghainese or Cantonese to people but he likes that he can speak Mandarine with people who natively speak one of the many other dialects.

There are serious practical benefits for people in China to learn Mandarin. It doesn't seem to interfere with their ability to learn their native languages.

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[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

This would be true if it weren’t for the biggest unrecognised genocide taking place against the Uyghurs

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

It’s not recognized because there was never a genocide. You can still be critical of China. You can say they carried out a heavy handed de-radicalization program where innocent people were forcibly imprisoned. That’s likely true. However, calling it genocide when the evidence is just not there to make such a claim just waters down the utility of the term, especially when a genocide that is recognized by the UN is ongoing in Gaza.

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[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

There's no way to define "ethnic unity" that doesn't involve racism and ethnic genocide.

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[-] wpb@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't the US, Canada, and Australia have similar laws? Kinda crazy China took so long to stoop to our level

EDIT: I have since learned that public schools in the US are not required to teach in English, so you can cross the US off that list! My bad!

EDIT2: I just googled it, and it turns out it is required. Back on the list it goes!

EDIT3: I've had to explain multiple times in the comments that I'm not talking about teaching immigrants the local language, but teaching the native population the language of the colonizers. The US, Canada, Australia all arrived somewhere where there were already people, like Polynesians, Inuits, and Aboriginals, and in their public school, they're all taught in English. It's disheartening to see how little people think of the native population of these countries, and it shows how effective the native American genocide was.

[-] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 12 points 1 month ago

No, it's actually a very important point that there is no national language in the US.

And no, the EO from 2025 is not legally binding and is more symbolic than anything.

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[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Genuine question : why do requiring a earnest effort to learn the language of the country a bad thing?

There is a shit ton of bad things about our immigration laws, but forcing immigrants to learn the local language isn't one of them.

Language barriers isolate people and learning the local language helps reduce the isolation, benefiting everyone.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

They didn't move there. They were conquered. That's called cultural genocide.

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[-] Undvik@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago

But when Spain or France does the same to its own minorities nobody cares

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[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

The same people who scream “speak American” will have a problem with this.

[-] brendansimms@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Garbage journalism from the BBC. They provide no link to the primary source i.e. the text of the law: Ethnic Unity and Progress Law

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[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 17 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I have huge doubt that this law won't be used to crush any cultural diversity to make a mono culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system

Despite current views that might define the system of residential schools as racist or genocidal, many scholars contend that they were seen as progressive at the time, a form of state intervention.

The school system was created as a civilizing mission to isolate Indigenous children from the influence of their own culture and religion in order to assimilate them into the dominant Euro-Canadian culture.

During their stay many students were forced to assimilate to Euro-Canadian culture, losing their Indigenous identities and struggling to fit into both their own communities as well as Canadian society.

These acts assumed the inherent superiority of French and British ways, and the need for Indigenous peoples to become French or English speakers, Christians, and farmers.

In 1894, amendments to the Indian Act made attendance at a day school, if there was a day school on the reserve on which the child resided, compulsory for status Indian children between 7 and 16 years of age. The changes included a series of exemptions regarding school location, the health of the children and their prior completion of school examinations.[

The introduction of the Family Allowance Act in 1945 stipulated that school-aged children had to be enrolled in school for families to qualify for the "baby bonus", further coercing Indigenous parents into having their children attend.

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission list three reasons behind the federal government's decision to establish residential schools.

  • Provide Aboriginal people with skills to participate in a market-based economy.
  • Further political assimilation, in hope that educated students would give up their status and not return to their reserves or families.
  • Schools were "engines of cultural and spiritual change" where "'savages' were to emerge as Christian 'white men'".
[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I assumed this was always the case in China, didn't they create mandarin with the sole purpose of making everyone learn it

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

China is a very large country and a lot of different ethnic groups. You don't see them because they have no mobility, aren't featured in Chinese media and the CCP really doesn't like them. Their idea of cultural "unity" is to convert everyone to Han.

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[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

All country force a main formal language, the fact that China didn't do it until now is actually interesting.

[-] electricyarn@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

This isn't true.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Please provide a source for this ridiculous claim. And don't be lazy and just list countries that have official languages for government business. You said "force." You can still get by in a place with an official language by doing business at government offices through interpreters. What we're talking about here is far beyond an official language (which is just the language used in government paperwork.) We're talking about laws that actually require people to know and speak a specific language.

Prove that even a majority of countries legally require people to know how to speak a specific language, let alone all of them.

Otherwise, I have to conclude that you're just spreading fascist propaganda.

[-] Mr_WorldlyWiseman 9 points 1 month ago

Most countries consider not offering teaching gin minority languages to be genocide. The status of the Russian language was used as one of the false pretense for the Russo-Ukrainian war.

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[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Actually don't have a problem with this. I think all countries should have one primary language that is used across the entire country and that everyone in the country knows the language.

No, I'm not saying you should suppress the native languages or do things like only allow that language to be used in government offices, but for schooling and general communication, I think it's best if everyone in the country is using one language. That helps keep everyone linked culturally, which is a crucial part of having a unified country.

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