Whew! It’s a good thing trucks never go through cross walks or across curb cuts to get into parking lots and drive throughs.

The only reason people ride scooters on the sidewalks is because our infrastructure is severely lacking and you get stuck “sharing” a lane with a 6000+lb truck.

Damn. Wish there was a way to have separate lanes or something

Not in my city. It is illegal for motorized vehicles of any kind to travel on sidewalks.

Right? The scooters are only in the sidewalks because the cars actively make the roads dangerous for them. But here we are in a place that supposedly hates cars defending them against a very useful replacement for a huge amount of people.

They need the same infrastructure that bicycles and have gotten popular really fast. Since the infrastructure cannot accomodate them (no bike lane), the scotters become a nuisance for everyone.
With proper infrastructure though (cycling lanes and parking spots) they are fine. (Some might argue about users not following the rules, I'd say, sometimes you can't respect the rules because the street is shit).

Also private companies monopolising public space, not cool. (that one I still stand by, and I hope they pay "rent" that goes towards maintaining the roads.)

it's so fascinating how people absolutely lose their minds over e-scooters, and these are people who shit on drivers for doing the exact same thing to cyclists!

Sorry about your circle jerk

One of these

Oh, really?

These devices probably cause < .1% of fatal pedestrian accidents and are electronically speed-limited, meanwhile for the device that causes 99% you put the responsibility of keeping speeds safe in the hands of individuals ranging from considerate over careless to outright methheads.

is often ridden on footpaths and walking areas

Why could that be? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that those are the only places where said 99% mode of transport responsible for 7,500 pedestrian deaths a year is banned and streets, where e-scooters should normally a go in cities, are designed for 2.5 tonne cars going 40?

The limit makes sense.

I mean yea, it does, but it is in essence just another concession to car dependency. Can't curb pedestrian deaths because infrastructure is dogshit, drivers are careless and cars become more and more unsafe? Just regulate the hell out of every means of transport other than the one causing all the deaths and make getting from a to b as hard as possible for everyone not driving. Helps to a) blur the blame and cause some infighting (for instance, this post) and b) getting more people in cars must mean fewer pedestrian deaths right?? also more cars sold and no expensive infrastructure changes. Phew.

So how is it not a valid argument? It's blatantly obvious that if cars were invented right now, with models as they are right now, safety concerns would be through the roof and they'd be regulated to hell and back with electronical speed-limits just like e-scooters are right now. The only reason cars are not limited in such a way is because they are a legacy device, part of America's cultural identity and with a uncontrollably powerful lobby behind it so any attempt in that regard would immediately lose you public support. You're asking for more well considered arguments, but I'm wondering what your argument is that cars should not be speed limited, other than that's just the way it is, let everything concede to the status quo?

In Germany they're limited to bicycle infrastructure and neither sidewalks nor highways are that, 20km/h (hardware limit, 12.4274mph in colonial units), no license but minimum age is 14, same DUI laws as for cars, and you need insurance. Which, granted, is quite cheap at 30-60 Euro a year and comes with a cute little license plate in fashionable colours (as in: changes every year). There's also some signalling requirements mostly mirroring bikes, minimum standards for brakes, such stuff. No regular technical inspection, though.

The morale? If you want to go fast get a bike 30km/h aren't that hard.

By banning cars in the city and rallocating freed space to ebikes. Oh, sorry, this is harder than rocket science for you.

You are derailing. This post is not about faster scooters. This post is a about absurdly overpowered tanks that can (and do) wreck havoc without being limited in any considerate way.

Where’s the guy that got hit by the vehicles on the right? Maybe there’s a reason that perspective isn’t being heard.

It's also primarily an issue of lacking infrastructure. Two wheeled assholes wouldn't be on the sidewalk if there was a bike lane, unless they're huge two wheeled assholes.