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The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade has confirmed officials were in talks with the US on the requirements and scope of an Enhanced Border Security Partnership (EBSP).

The US has given the 42 countries in its Visa Waiver Program - a reciprocal agreement that allowed citizens to visit for up to 90 days without a visa - until the end of the year to conclude EBSP negotiations or risk losing visa-free travel status.

Any information handed over to the US may end up with the country's controversial Immigration and Customs Enforcement border force - or ICE as it is commonly known - and concerns have been raised about the opaque process, data sovereignity and surveillance overreach.

New Zealand's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) refused to clarify what safeguards were being considered to protect New Zealanders' private information or if it was aware of any ICE personnel stationed in New Zealand at present.

Biometric sharing programmes already exist between Five Eyes countries (New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United States and the United Kingdom) as part of Migration Five arrangements but typically operated on a 'hit/no-hit' basis where initial biometric checks provided minimal information, and further data requests were considered on a case by case basis.

But EBSPs could provide full automated access to other countries' national databases, according to critics and minutes from European Union member state negotiations.

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[-] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 173 points 4 days ago

I’m so fucking sick of this fascist shit.

It feels like no one in any meaningful position of power has any morality.

Capitalism has morally bankrupted just about everyone in a position of power.

Shout out to the ones that are genuinely trying to improve our lives.

[-] Beep@lemmus.org 17 points 4 days ago

Shout out to the ones that are genuinely trying to improve our lives.

Like who?

[-] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago

AOC, Mamdani, Talarico, Sanders, Buttigieg, Brandon Scott off the top of my head.

[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

Brandon Scott, mayor of Baltimore, MD, USA?

[-] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I saw him on the Lemonade Stand podcast and man sounds like a stand up guy.

[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago

Baltimoron here - he's definitely not the worst mayor we've had in recent history, and he probably gets some credit for supporting the violence reduction programs that have led to our truly historic drop in homicides over the last couple years.

Also, he has good taste in music

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Wassup "human"... Feel like connecting to be a beer supplier?

I'm looking for a hook up to Crooked Crab Brewing.

[-] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 days ago
[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago

I’m so mad that the world saw Linus’ gift and said “cool, let’s build all the torment nexuses out of this because it’s cheaper”

[-] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

... and every other open source dev. how many of us are there, millons?

[-] Kraiden@piefed.social 13 points 4 days ago

Chloe Swarbrick for an NZ specific example

[-] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 4 points 4 days ago
[-] piwakawakas@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 days ago

Chloe for PM!

Fuck this surveillance shit

[-] myrmidex@belgae.social 12 points 4 days ago

So before capitalism you don't know of any rulers being unjust?

It's not a feature of capitalism to corrupt, it's a feature of power structures to be corruptible.

[-] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

It’s not just rulers being unjust.

The issue is the rich and powerful are manipulating every aspect of our lives and our political system to gain more money and power for themselves and never face accountability for their wrongdoings.

These people are genuinely evil

[-] myrmidex@belgae.social 6 points 4 days ago

Still comes down to the rulers imo, as they enable such behavior from the rich. The longer this goes on, the more blatant it becomes. And they've been at it for a looong time.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

Of course the rulers enable this behaviour. Who do you think made them the "rulers" to begin with? You think our broke asses pay to get these people elected?

[-] myrmidex@belgae.social 5 points 4 days ago

Elites will always be troublesome, but of no importance when they cannot corrupt anyone to do their bidding. That's why I focus on rulers.

The problem is that people still seem to think that the next politician will change this, which is exactly what the elites want.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Elites will always be troublesome, but of no importance when they cannot corrupt anyone to do their bidding.

Given enough time and enough resources, anyone is corruptible. The most corrupt are usually those who believe they can't be corrupted. You just have to get them to honestly believe something that isn't true. Once you figure out what cognitive fallacies they're vulnerable to, you'll have just turned a bulwark against you into your most loyal zealot. That's why the wealthy usually win. With enough money, one person can command more time, and resources than 50% of the country combined.

[-] myrmidex@belgae.social 1 points 4 days ago

Totally agree. Everyone is corruptible.

Chomsky being in the Epstein files is the perfect example.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

None of this is a capitalism issue.

[-] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

How is it not?

The rich and powerful are using their essentially bottomless pit of resources and money to influence political systems to give them even more money or resources.

Billionaires own everything and it's wreaking havoc on our lives.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Capitalism gives them the tools to create the wealth disparity. Wealth = power. They have used their capital to create more, and this have gained a outsized leverage over our entire society.

You’re not a capitalist, you’re a worker who can’t see past the ruling class’ propaganda that socialism requires totalitarianism. It ain’t true.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Do you think there is no growing wealth disparity under socialism? Do you think an Nvidia employee is going to earn the same as a person working at a small business? People will always have tools to create wealth disparity. Even in a moneyless society people can create wealth disparity.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Look, I'm not a huge fan of capitalism but it's a little silly to pretend that the world was free from corruption prior to capitalism.

[-] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I’m not saying that capitalism is the cause of corruption. I’m saying that capitalism is an accelerant for corruption

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Your comment wording implied cause to my reading.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 44 points 4 days ago

And still I'm told to be afraid of China.

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

por que no los dos?

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I mean, china does this kind of stuff too, collecting biometrics. So this is an instance where both are clearly bad

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 30 points 4 days ago

What the fuck.

[-] MOARbid1@piefed.social 27 points 4 days ago

Hey guys, don’t let them do that.

[-] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 12 points 4 days ago

NZ don't let them get you like they did us, furthermore you should seize antichrist guy's house and/or arrest him upon reentry

[-] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago

They don't even have a border. Just a shared interest in crushing the proles.

[-] DevotedShitStain69@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Y'all better demand your government to backtrack on giving our fascist government your information.

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 6 points 4 days ago

Oh i will be.

[-] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 days ago

Sadly, somewhere along the line New Zealand became a very conservative country that’s hard to rouse to action.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Hey look, it's spreading already.

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I mean, the five eyes have been a thing for a long time. Not sure that this is really news aside from the publicity

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago
[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago
[-] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

90 day travel no visa is pretty good though. If info is already shared through the five eyes agreement then this is a no brainer. Ice isnt going to come to NZ to arrest people and Trump's going to be out in a few years.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

Do you think America just snaps out of this in 3 years? Or do you think Trump starts to round up people who didn’t vote R in the midterms and then appoints his successor, President Elect Steven Miller?

And the fact that you thought about it for a second means you should be scared.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Americans are really really stupid so I cant say for sure. But I've got good vibes that dems win next election and fix things. They are absolutely sweeping in the smaller elections and we're seeing a ton of strong democratic candidates we're even seeing lefties win in a few places.

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