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[-] spark947@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

I feel like, at this point, it has more than proved itself as a general purpose desktop scheduler. But there are situations where you would want something different but a lot of software depends on it anyway.

I also kinda don't understand the hate toward the project itself, other than hearing some of the technical guidance on it has been a bit arrogant in the past or something. Sounds like sily open source drama to me honestly.

[-] gunpachi@lemmings.world 15 points 2 years ago

I don't have anything against systemd that is until I tried void linux for the first time. The working of runit seemed very simple and efficient compared to the complexity of systemd.

I still don't hate systemd, but I just wish it was simpler.

[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Linux power-users hate it when a tool tries to become a platform.

It breaks the principle of single responsibility and becomes a threat to the evolution of alternatives.

It's pros and cons. Having a platform is better because everyone works together on a single effort. But it also becomes a risk because now everyone depends on a single thing that does too much.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

It's a pretty bridge, they'd say, but be careful you don't look at the supports. It was built using bad techniques, bad procedures, no coordination and no inspection.

Just cross your fingers as you drive over and hope it doesn't blow up because of its flawed construction.

I find it's a great way to cross the river, today.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

In a quiet village, two monks stood on the bank of a wide river. The older monk asked the younger, "How do you cross this river?"

The younger monk pointed at the grand bridge a short distance away, "Through that bridge, master."

The older monk shook his head, "You see a bridge, yet the river flows beneath. In seeking to cross, you are already on the other side. Tell me, where is the true bridge?

At that moment, the young monk became enlightened, supposedly, because that's how most zen koans end.

[-] art@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

For a desktop it's suitable for 99% of what you'd want to do. Might not be the best tool for large servers or something (I really don't know) but I'm sure all that depends on use case.

[-] JTskulk@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I only hate it because I can't figure out how to run a blocking script before everything else when a suspend is initiated.

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[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

soystemd lol

[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

What else are you going to do? runnit? ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[-] clumsyninza@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

What's up with the username?

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Welcome to the Internet

[-] xcutie@linux.community 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I find everything so complicated with systemd.

SysV was just intuitive for me and my knowledge. There was just one directory with all the startup scripts in it. And they were run in their alphanumerical ordner. Just that simple. If I wanted to change the order in which the scripts started, I just had to rename the file. You don't want a script to run at all? Just remove it.

I assume, systemd has many advantages for a knowledged user. But for me, it still is just a hassle.

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

I haven't had to debug a bash script since systemd became a thing, so I have a vastly different experience from you.

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[-] Jimbob0i0@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

And what happened if one of those scripts failed?

How did your express a dependency of a service on data being mounted?

Did you ever have to face debugging failing networking via scripts?

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago

Its overly complicated for some use cases. Its also annoying that some software depends on it.

[-] tentaclius@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Every new tools (especially those being pushed by big corporations) meets resistance and suspicion. It's a new thing to learn instead of something proven to work, usually more resource-hungry...

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