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This dude posts a wildly racist meme of Michelle Obama. I report the post. Funnily enough, the racist post is posted by the mod of dankmemes, dankchristianmemes and some other shit hole.

Said mod then starts sending abusive transphobic messages to me. Try to report the user. Nothing happens when I hit the button.

Shit like this is why Lemmy isn't a viable alternative yet. We need to do better and be better.

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[-] Melpomene@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy and Kbin have both seen a huge influx of people in the past few weeks, so admins of each instance are struggling to keep up. For the most part, the admins are working for free, in addition to whatever their day jobs are.

Having said that, I'd report those magazines / communities to the admin of the instance for action, understanding that right now, they're buried in requests, questions, and complaints. If the issue is an entire instance, well, defederation is an option.

FWIW, I was threatened on Reddit more than once with actual murder... people threatening to come to my house and kill me. Reddit's general response was to... delete the chat message in question as a "resolution" to my complaint. AFAIK, that was the extent of their action. I at least have the impression that abusive users will be removed, though it might take a bit given the incredible influx of new users.

I am sorry that they're harassing you though. Noting to block those magazines / communities.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

A homophobe told me that he'd rather die than respect everyone's right to be safe and unabused in public. I told him I didn't believe him, why doesn't he show us. I got permabanned, he's still spreading hate.

[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Lovely 😐

[-] mannycalavera@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FWIW, I was threatened on Reddit more than once with actual murder... people threatening to come to my house and kill me. Reddit's general response was to... delete the chat message in question as a "resolution" to my complaint. AFAIK, that was the extent of their action. I at least have the impression that abusive users will be removed, though it might take a bit given the incredible influx of new users.

This is horrible, why do people think they can say this shit? I hope you reported this to the police? I'm pretty much most places this behaviour is illegal. It's not a good look for Reddit to be complacent with illegal activity on their site.

Edit: massive typos

[-] Melpomene@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

It's all good! Not that the guy would have had an easy time finding me; I'm not inclined to share my "real life" info online and I rarely use the same username / contact info on more than one site. Heck, as I note... I'm probably just an incredibly advanced AI anyway. Bleep bloop.

[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I don't fear them. Let 'em come!

P Sherman
42 Wallaby Way
Sydney

[-] Bucket_of_Truth@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

A French guy was stabbed to death once after a guy he beat in counter-strike was able to track him down.

[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Possible and tragic, but that's the address of the dentist in Finding Nemo. And I suck at counter strike. And I'm not French.

[-] mr47@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The question is, is it real? Or are addresses in movies fake and cannot be traced to real places, like the 555 phone numbers?

[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Google said it's fake. I guess the producers wouldn't have picked a real address. Or at least not a real address of a person. Police station would be a good pick.

[-] Melpomene@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I may have given creeps police station addresses before. That and 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

[-] gk99@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

This is explicitly why I avoid mixing my gaming/forums/Discord accounts with my IRL/social media accounts. People out there are lunatics.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

They think they can say this shit because they obviously can. There are no consequences.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had a similar experience, but their response was better. I had been talking on a certain sub for months (an illness support sub...) and there was one user who was prominently abrasive. Actually an odd mixture of acting tough mixed with seeming very sensitive, so I suppose basically a bully. We didn't get along great. He liked giving factually incorrect advice mixed with telling us all we were "weak pussies" for being concerned about illness. I don't remember all the details, but at some point he started blatantly using alternate accounts to support his viewpoints and harass people. I called him out on that and he was angry about it, and started saying things like "I'll be in Portland next week, maybe I'll come pay you a little visit" and "you'd better watch for me, I'll be seeing you soon". Reddit admins did remove his main account along with the 2-3 others he was using.

[-] exohuman@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@i_simp_4_tedcruz
Yeah, as @melpone says it will just take time for admins to respond if you message them directly. I know Lemmy.world doesn’t tolerate people like this. This is from the lemmy/mastodon.world Code of Conduct:

Provide a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for everyone regardless of gender identity or expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, political affiliation, or other similar characteristic.

[-] Melpomene@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Instances generally need more moderators but I understand the need to screen for good / bad candidates too. We also need a way to communicate bad actors across instances easily, which does not yet seem to be a thing. Maybe I'm wrong though; I'm not moderating anything.

[-] MichelleG@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Hello everyone. This is Michelle, one of the Lemmy.world Admins/Moderators.

I want to let you know that if you are reporting a post/comment from a community moderator, please message me and let me know your concern. Especially if it relates to the violation of server rules for hate speech, racism, threats, or calls to violence.

If it’s a Lemmy.world community, they can resolve the report before we have a chance to see it. So please let me know if no action is being taken.

If the community is on another instance, we can see the reports you submit. We can ban and remove the posts/comments from our side.

We have zero tolerance for homophobia, racism, hate speech, bullying, child pornography, and many others that are listed under our server rules.

The moderation tools we currently have are not very robust, but I hope this helps clarify what can be done to escalate issues.

[-] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Can we please defederate from exploding-heads.com? Nothing good comes from there.

[-] db2@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

A post on that goofball server says:

Exploding-Heads.com will go offline August 31st 2023.

So we won't have to deal with their whiny racist sexist bullshit for long.

If you're curious an accurate tl;dr of the post that's from is "waah we can't be total shitheads with impunity while also telling everyone else what to do, so we're going to ~~voat~~ nostr where other insufferable brats also go."

[-] poo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

👏 Amazing 👏, please ban this fisuxcel bigot

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Soooo... I don't see any way to report abusive mod behavior at all here on lemmy - there doesn't even seem to be a way to let the other mods of a given community know about the behavior of one of their mods. I've just been suspended from World News because one of the mods there decided that the term white supremacist counts as a perjorative.

[-] DoucheAsaurus@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

That guy is on exploding-heads.com which is full of alt right chuds so I'm not surprised.

[-] supernovae@readit.buzz 0 points 1 year ago

Lemmy and Kbin sites need to implement basic block lists... the terrible mastodon/akoma/pleroma/friendica sites all need to be banned here too or they will make your day bad.

[-] JeffCraig@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And here-in lies the downfall of Lemmy. Federation can't be an automatic thing. Communities need to be vetted before their content becomes visible on other instances. The Federation concept will work, but not the way it's currently designed.

[-] supernovae@readit.buzz 1 points 1 year ago

Federation can be automatic - people just need to go find the block lists where the work is already done.

[-] dedale@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Try PMing the admin. This is a smaller scale, non profit network, you can't expect moderation to be as fast as in a major platform (yet).
But I'm sure they'll be willing to deal with it.

I think db0 is working on some sort of collective rating for instances, maybe that could be extended to users, but I'm no sure how much good it would do, and if it wouldn't be abused.

[-] jherazob@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

This is why huge instances are not a good idea, the shitstain will likely be booted out when the overworked admins get to the complaint but will take time, if the instance was smaller it would have been done already but big instances need lots of work

[-] Kichae@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I can't tell which instance they're on, but if you report something to admins, it's reported to your local server admin. If they're on a different server, the absolute best your admin can do is contact the other user's admin to forward the report and block the instance. The more likely outcome is that they block the other user from your server.

I don't know how responsive the admin of LW is, but it seems to be a site that's prioritizing growth and "openness", but, as far as I'm concerned, the real value of this space is in smaller servers and smaller communities, with federation just giving access to occasional trips to "big city" sites. Smaller sites usually have more responsive admins and are quicker to cut off bad actors because they care more about community health than unlimited growth and access.

[-] FizzlePopBerryTwist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's not cool. You come to my subs. I'll treat your reports right. Bring you a hot towel with a mint and the morning paper.

[-] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We can't pretend this is just a Lemmy issue. But I agree with your sentiment.

[-] ThreeHalflings@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Isn't the recourse to ask the instance admin to intervene?

[-] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yup. Except the report button goes nowhere.

[-] EsotericEmbryo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Try doing it via the browser instead of using the app and it should work!

[-] T156@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't the report just go to the moderator, who can disregard it?

[-] fsk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is a recourse. You start your own node and block the offending node. Aren't there features that let you block individual users?

[-] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Should I set up my own smtp server too? What about dns?

[-] overzeetop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is the biggest problem the fediverse has. Because it was set up by people who live/are good at IT it’s just assumed that everyone is. It’s open source; don’t like something, just code your own version! Unfortunately, that will lock out around 98% of all users and we (Lemmy/kbin) will just be some backwater circkejerk of interests which overlap with programming as a hobby.

I think the mods are currently drinking from a firehose and, if we want to be part of the solution, the best thing we as users can do is be patient and thick skinned until the assholes are brought under control. That really could mean just abandoning a big server like Lemmy.world for something quieter like sopuli.xyz or a defederated instance like beehaw.

There is no karma here, moving to a new server and deleting the old server account should be viewed as a tactical win. If you want to get in the mud and pursue the troll in their own instance, make an account there and plug in your angry keyboard. If you just want to find a place to be comfortable, find it and stonewall that asshole. You’re not really losing any reputation or, one will presume, friend base since you’ll probably subscribe to the nicer communities using the same public username when you move instances.

I wish you all the best.

[-] candyman337@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

What you'd want to do now is reach out directly to the admin of the instance.

[-] i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Have you taken a peek into that cesspit? Good luck

[-] yokonzo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm actually looking at the user right now and it looks like he's been banned. I understand you may be a bit raw right now but hating on lemmy as a whole and instances because of one person is not a very good look. We're all going through change right now

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