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[-] Mystech@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

Probably around the same time I learned spelt is a type of wheat.

[-] Rhoeri@piefed.world 3 points 4 days ago

Underrated comment.

[-] dusty_raven@discuss.online 16 points 4 days ago

It's both. Judgment is common in North American and British English. Judgement is fine, but not for legal proceedings. https://grammarist.com/spelling/judgment-judgement/

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 4 days ago

interesting. a quote from the oxford style guide mentioned (for BrE, of course):

  • judgement (moral, academic etc)
  • judgment (legal decision only)

the guide’s own wording also says “… moral judgement”. so according to oxford legal decisions can be called “judgments” but everything else should be called “judgements”?

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Canadian here. There's nothing wrong with the shortened American spelling of words. They're perfectly understandable and more efficient. We should be doing it with a ton more words with silent letters. Y'all should be more like Canadians and just understand and accept all the spellings and pronunciations.

That said, I will continue to use my extra u's.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Also using both metric AND imperial at the same time

[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

I was born in the US. Until reading this thread about it's legal usage, I would have assumed the one without the 'e' was a mistake.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 days ago

it’s not just legal usage; in AmE it’s supposed to not have an e anywhere

[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago

I grew up with the 'e' in there, at least so far as I can remember. That I consider the version without an 'e' to be wrong would reenforce that.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 days ago

most of my friends who grew up there never noticed the absence of the e until a spellcheck pointed it out, same might go for you too

[-] Maiq@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago
[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

And even aside from the "ton"/"tonne" difference, it used to be "tun":

https://www.etymonline.com/word/ton

ton(n.1)

[measure of weight or capacity], late 14c., "the quantity necessary to fill a tun or ask of wine;" the word is identical to tun (q.v.) "large barrel for wine, ale, or other liquid," often one of definite capacity.

The "weight-and-capacity" sense was (eventually) given its own spelling. The spelling with -o- became established 18c. (OED says "from c. 1688"); it is attested from 14c (tonne), and, though not phonetic, may have been retained partly because of the prevalence of Old French tonne, Medieval Latin tonna in legal forms and statutes in England.

Color and armor don't contain a "u" over here either.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They had to remove the u because Colour has OUR and it sounded too "communist"

/j

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Looked up: Terminator: Judgement Day

Google Autocorrected me.

Also not sure if this is exactly an open ended discussion question... and why "Americans" specifically? 🤔

[-] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I believe that the general convention in both British and American English


though I'm sure that it's not consistently followed everywhere


is to use "the other guy's" spellings for proper nouns for things that were named on the other side of the Atlantic. Like, we in the US will normally refer to the British "Labour Party", even though that's not how we spell "labor".

goes looking for a British movie poster for Terminator 2

This says that it's a British poster, and it has no "e":

https://www.vintagemovieposters.co.uk/shop/terminator-2-judgement-day-movie-poster-5/

You likely want to choose an example where the term isn't part of a proper noun.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 days ago

i thought it was just an AmE thing. apparently it’s also common in some british regions. outside of these regions (including the entire commonwealth) it’s “judgement” which is also what my phone keyboard gives me.

[-] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 days ago
[-] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago
[-] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Probably shortly after I started reading words

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