Misogynistic drivel.
Woman: I'm suffering
Man: I have it worse!
Shut the fuck up and listen. If someone says they're suffering you pay attention to their problems not make it a contest.
You do undermine your own point a bit by trivializing men's suffering in the same breath as demanding nobody trivialize suffering.
The comic is bullshit for sure but you did exactly the same thing it did.
He ignored her suffering and diminished it saying that for 5 days a month she feels what he deals with every day. He's ignoring her point and one-upping her. That's toxic behaviour that doesn't help anything.
That he is also suffering is a separate conversation that also needs to take place but that's a different conversation. The first step is resolving conflict is by listening to the other person's point of view, not dismissing it as less important.
… it is that “toxic” mental health that the author is trying to emphasize needs to be met.
both issues are valid. but shorthair‘s mental health problem is what's being highlighted.
It's precisely shorthair’s dismissal that needs to be intervened.
there maybe some underlying ASPD that needs to be resolved.
Also OP is a new account with only posts and no comments. Lots of red flags.
Did you consider that the comic is making fun of misogynists?
I had not considered that, so thanks for pointing that out. Upon checking the comic more closely, I don't get any hint that it's making fun of misogynists, but it's certainly possible.
If so, it's shockingly ineptly done though
Longhair: explains problem they insist short-haired can't understand
Short hair: explains he does and why, revealing deep emotional damage underneath
You: MY SOGGY KNEEEEES!
Why would we listen, you just did the opposite. No empathy for those who don't show any.
What the person you replied to is correct regardless of the genders involved. When someone brings up a problem to you, it's a rude thing to immediately respond in ways that make it about you and your own pain. There's a line between sharing your own experiences to establish understanding and empathy and making it the pain Olympics.
Especially in this comic, the man couldn't possibly understand how it feels to have the unfortunate symptoms that come from having periods, and he instantly equates putting up with his partner during their period as equivalent. It's eye rolling on multiple levels.
He never made it about him. You made it about him. Where did he equate it to putting up with her? He didn't, you did. He only explained how he could in fact understand her pain. You are saying he can never express his pain, he can only agree with her, pure bigotry
I never said he couldn't express his pain. I said, regardless of genders, this way of expressing it is simply rude and not a good way to communicate in any kind of relationship. When someone brings up something that is bothering them, and your immediate response is "yeah, but me", you're being a jerk. Since this seems to be escaping you, this doesn't mean the other person isn't allowed to talk about their feelings. They simply need to be an adult and do it at a more appropriate time or in a more appropriate way. Conversations like this aren't a battle to be won, they are a tool used to solve a problem or simply vent frustration.
You seem to be looking at this in a very black and white way. Therapy can help with that. It's not a fun way to go through life.
So you're just ignoring the part where the woman says that the man doesn't understand? That's the whole reason why he says how he feels. He's not just saying that to undermine her struggle. He's explaining why he thinks he understands her better than she thinks.
It's about depression you git. Does he have "all men" tattooed on his fucking forehead? It's one dude. You sound extremely hypocritical
Men will literally menstruate 24/7 instead of going to therapy
Fake news we also have 40k lore
Dude. No need to call us out like that.
In America therapy costs a lot of money and you get no guarantee you'll see someone competent.
Very true and I speak from experience. Still worth it to try, if you need help. I did eventually find one that helped me a lot.
So is the answer to give up or keep trying?
The answer is to fight for a healthcare system that covers all health (including mental) instead of trying to be the most effective funnel of money from the poor into the coffers of the rich.
Sadly, the people who are most lacking in mental health support are largely the ones who actively fight against such a structure (because propaganda works).
If anyone is mentruating 24/7, I would suggest the hospital.
I've noticed that I cannot see images hosted on lemmy.zip unless I visit it manually, what could be causing this?
I feel like if this was a specific character going "wait that's not normal lol" the joke would land better. But as it is the only frame of reference we have is one representing women and one representing men.
And it just all falls flat because women can have mental illnesses too? And yes men are forced to repress it more often but women often have their physical or mental health dismissed or ignored so it's not much better either way.
I'm trans so I'll never face a period but I can't imagine the agony of going through one in addition to a mental health crisis or other sickness. And it's not like women get "period days off" of work or school so you're just expected to push through it.
I’m grateful you will never have to deal with it, it makes me a little jealous. If you ever want to imagine what bad cramps feel like, imagine a power drill plunged into your belly, whirring at full speed. 😭
Yuck. Lemmy has a misogynistic streak and this bullshit doesn't help. The account is less than a day old and I'm wondering if I should block it now or wait and see what else they post...
Edit: there's no joke here. He's saying that men experience an amount of stress equivalent to menstruation on a daily basis. And that is staggeringly pathetic. Women deal with this pain and discomfort one week a month and still manage to live fulfilling lives. Men don't have that the added physical burden and still can't achieve emotional regulation and fulfillment?
Who's the weaker sex again?
He's not saying anything about men generally, YOU are.
The man in this comic is talking about himself, not men. Do you think it's not possible for a man to feel the level of stress a woman feels from her period, as his baseline due to mental health issues? If I'm a severely distressed or depressed man, there's not a world where my daily average is on par or worse than a woman on her period?
Can you put your own lived experience on any higher of a pedestal over others?
lol
Anyone defending this "comic" looks like a lunatic. I can't take anything you say seriously.
what
Why are you all bitching women aren't even real
Just like birds
That's why the brits call them that.
I love the comments demonstrating exactly how men's mental health issues are marginalised, ignored and treated with contempt.
BTW, international men's day is November 19th, and no one gives a shit.
I give a shit. Stop saying no one gives a shit, it's not true. The media powers put those words together, stop repeating the lie they sell you.
Give a shit
Jeez, first the reprisal of the bear comparison with a hilarious amount of dudes feeling still it is a bad comparison because bears are so so much more dangerous, now this, what is going on with Lemmy?
I see more people speaking out against the comic than for. Just a lot of the same people repeating the for side.
Eh even if you want to bring your own emotional problems into a discussion like this, probably a better way is to go along the lines of "I understand how you feel, I often feel that way too. I find [this method] to be very helpful when dealing with it." bla bla, rather than turning it into a piss contest (or contunuing it if it started off like that).
Also I feel like this comic tries to speak in place of all men. I might be wrong but if indeed so, I don't feel like that all the time. Sure I do feel like that sometimes but definitely not even every month. I got my other problems, I am not problem free, but this is not it. So if this man feels like that all the time, he should probably try to have an open hearted discussion about it with someone who can understand rather than get angry about it. And if the other person makes fun of him for that, maybe he should consider his ties with that person because there are definitely people who are more understanding.
I can't guarantee it, but I'd guess the girl is talking about their period. I don't think that him giving advice is helpful in this context and from your comment it seems like maybe that wasn't how you understood the comic. Just adding that because it seems like your comment has a good intent but might not relate to how some people interpret the comic.
People yelling misogyny are not comprehending shorthair’s unresolved mental health crisis. JimBenton is exemplifying someone who has the bloodlust, depression and self-disgust and needs a therapist to help tackle the issue.
It's legitimately amazing women can endure a flaw in our biology and have emotional endurance NOT to kill, feel disgust, and depression ALL the time. But most other mammals do not have periods. We fucked up our evolution along the way.
Hopefully we can fix those genetic errors next CRISPR research. In the meantime, if you find people like shorthair, intervene, and recommend them a good psychiatrist.
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