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[-] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Those are not scare quotes. they are just quotes. People were just referring to him as hero or the hero because they didn't know his name.

The headline is stating "that the guy you've all been calling 'hero'... His actual name is Ahmed al Ahmed".

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 months ago
[-] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And if this headline used Train hero as a name (e.g. Train Hero) rather than a description of a person then we'd be closer to a one-to-one comparison. If they used the train hero's name in the headline in addition to calling him hero, then you'd be spot on.

Even then they wouldn't be scare quotes. It would just be a different style choice. I checked the BBC style guide and this is pretty open to interpretation.

No one at the BBC is making a case that an unarmed man stopping a mass shooter is not heroic. This is people looking for stuff to be outraged about.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh look another logical use of English we can pretend is a conspiracy or something. Can someone tell me what the fuck a "scare" quote is btw?

[-] guy@piefed.social 9 points 5 months ago
[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

what the fuck a "scare" quote

Seemingly something people point out to try and make themselves seem smarter than they are.

[-] theyee0@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

I think scare quotes are quotes that are used ironically (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes). I guess the implication OP was picking up on was rather than referring to an actual quote of someone calling him a hero, that the news article was poking fun at this “so-called hero.”

As for the conspiracy, I’m not totally sure. Maybe we can see it as an attempt to delegitimize the hero’s actions (because he’s a minority??)? But there doesn’t seem to be too much evidence to support that from just the image, so we’d have to read the article.

[-] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Because it's a quote. In Britain we use english

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago
[-] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Yes. In this case it's the author of the article calling him a hero. Rather than a person he has quoted. 

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Quote marks indicate opinions instead of objectivity, however BBC doesn't always use it as a subjective quote, defeating that argument.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Who was he quoting in the headline?

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

^ Chauvinist pig

There's some bRiTisH EnGliSh words to describe you, loser

[-] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

I mean, obviously I'm being a bit rude, welcome to the internet. But quite literally this gets asked and answered all the time. Quotes in newspaper headlines in Britain are literal quotations of what someone said to the reporter, in the article you may choose to then read below. 

That's how the system is set up, there's rules and order and we don't need to worry all that much about the presence or absence of quotes except to delineate exactly that

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Honestly surprised they even acknowledged he's Middle Eastern with an Arabic name. Usually they brush those details under the rug to avoid offending the Muslim hate crowd.

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Someone filmed the shooters from like 50m away for a full 11 minutes, I can't stop thinking about it

It's all just wild shit like this happens and all anyone can think about is shit, this'll be great on the gram

this includes the cops taking photos of the shooters drivers lisence and letting people take photos of their phone

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

That video is crucial evidence.

While videoing can seem unhelpful at the time documenting events like that helps convict the accused. Realistically there was nothing else they could safely do.

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