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Australia has enacted a world-first ban on social media for users aged under 16, causing millions of children and teenagers to lose access to their accounts.

Facebook, Instagram, Threads, X, YouTube, Snapchat, Reddit, Kick, Twitch and TikTok are expected to have taken steps from Wednesday to remove accounts held by users under 16 years of age in Australia, and prevent those teens from registering new accounts.

Platforms that do not comply risk fines of up to $49.5m.

There have been some teething problems with the ban’s implementation. Guardian Australia has received several reports of those under 16 passing the facial age assurance tests, but the government has flagged it is not expecting the ban will be perfect from day one.

All listed platforms apart from X had confirmed by Tuesday they would comply with the ban. The eSafety commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, said it had recently had a conversation with X about how it would comply, but the company had not communicated its policy to users.

Bluesky, an X alternative, announced on Tuesday it would also ban under-16s, despite eSafety assessing the platform as “low risk” due to its small user base of 50,000 in Australia.

Parents of children affected by the ban shared a spectrum of views on the policy. One parent told the Guardian their 15-year-old daughter was “very distressed” because “all her 14 to 15-year-old friends have been age verified as 18 by Snapchat”. Since she had been identified as under 16, they feared “her friends will keep using Snapchat to talk and organise social events and she will be left out”.

Others said the ban “can’t come quickly enough”. One parent said their daughter was “completely addicted” to social media and the ban “provides us with a support framework to keep her off these platforms”.

“The fact that teenagers occasionally find a way to have a drink doesn’t diminish the value of having a clear, ­national standard.”

Polling has consistently shown that two-thirds of voters support raising the minimum age for social media to 16. The opposition, including leader Sussan Ley, have recently voiced alarm about the ban, despite waving the legislation through parliament and the former Liberal leader Peter Dutton championing it.

The ban has garnered worldwide attention, with several nations indicating they will adopt a ban of their own, including Malaysia, Denmark and Norway. The European Union passed a resolution to adopt similar restrictions, while a spokesperson for the British government told Reuters it was “closely monitoring Australia’s approach to age restrictions”.

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[-] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 15 points 2 days ago

Discord isn’t covered by the ban surprisingly enough despite being one of the platform more ripe for exploitation. I get that you’d want kids to be able to DM each other and voice chat but Discord is closer to a forum than it is to say, Signal.

Wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up on the ban list later on.

[-] Henson@feddit.dk 15 points 2 days ago

On the other hand in Discord there is not an algorithm to feed you contet, so you have much more control of what you see/read, it does not leads you to the extremes

[-] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 6 points 2 days ago

Oh absolutely! The ban makes far more sense as an algorithm ban rather than a social media ban and to the extent that you’re curtailing various mental issues that come with comparing yourself to others and being fed a narrative that is a good thing, versus banning interaction among friends. That doesn’t at all excuse the ban of course. It’s bad and to an extent doesn’t even target the core of the issue: you are still being fed this information whether you have an account or not. You don’t need an account to watch Tiktok, YouTube or Reddit. The issues of the algorithm are still very much there, it’s just that <16s can’t post/comment anymore.

[-] C1pher@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Its not about the “kids” or safety, but to know who keeps shitting on the govt online and spreading… “undesirable thoughts”.

[-] Naturalhealer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You just nailed it. I will also add this will lead to digital ID for everyone unless people resist. Slippery slope for those unaware of the NWO.

[-] wondrous_strange@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

Instead of punishing these cancerous cess pool manipulative platforms, they punish the kids.

The youth deserves to be able to communicate and use the web the same as the rest of the population.

Regulations should be such that these platforms are neutral, non manipulative safe spaces where people can come together share content and discussions.

The overall stupidity of decision makers is incomprehensible to me. Literal shit sacks politicians that should all be thrown into a hole.

Beat of luck youth, my heart is with you. Hope Lemmy will be the answer(or some other decentralized platform)

[-] kossa@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

I agree that the ban is not good regulation. However, that some kind of regulation of those platforms get started is hopefully a milestone which gets the stone rolling. I consider those good news because of that.

I am cynically enough that I doubt that regulators around the world will learn and adapt, like I would wish for, but one can hope.

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[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

It's Australia, been heading in a fascist direction for the longest time, and people think it's fine because it's institutionalized direction, not a orange clown lead occurrence

[-] wondrous_strange@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Seems like the same story all around the world. Scary shit

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[-] comalnik@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"One parent said their daughter was completely addicted to social media" Well then fucking take away her phone. Get her a dumb phone. Install parental controls. Go to a therapist if yo have to. But nooooo the government has got to do everything for us incompetent fucks

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

I had this issue with a 15 year old. Phone gone, just an analog flippy, put in parental controls to prevent loading brain rot apps.

He's happier for it.

[-] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Absolutely. My kids are 11 and 9 and some of their friends have phones. I might provide a dumb phone when they're a bit older, but if they want a smartphone they'll.have to wait until they get a job and buy one.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Just going to teach those kids its okay to break the law.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

A lesson that is not incorrect. Depends on the law.

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 days ago

all her 14 to 15-year-old friends have been age verified as 18 by Snapchat

I love how this sentence is just casually sprinkled there. So platforms are getting $50m fines if they do not implement "age verification", but no problem if they fail to identify minors as such? Tells you everything about how they really care about protecting children.

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[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Dw guys we've tested it and it's a certified bad idea. You're welcome

[-] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 135 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Some good silver linings here, but what everyone needs to remember here is that nobody would be supporting this at all if facebook wasn’t intentionally predatory and bad for (all) people’s brains.

If regulators in Australia had a spine they would call for an end to those practices, and now that’s infinitely harder to do

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[-] arc99@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Make it a world wide ban to the age of 80

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

As long as social media's goals are commercial and have the effect of "digital cocaine", keeping kids and adolescents out of it should be the default, worldwide.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That is a lot of drug addicts to cut off at once.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Children lost access to social media? And nothing of value was lost.

I don’t get it. This “ban” is going to last days or hours before the kids just find an app that does’t check their age.

It also will allow the big platforms to drop any pretence that their users need to be protected and take the gloves off with their algorithms to increase engagement to replace the kids.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So I guess the kids are gonna go to the dark web. What could go wrong.

I will look forward to Darth Musk throwing a tantrum against Australia when they eventually fine X for not complying, but that's about the only good thing to come from this ban.

Oh yes sure, it's great they stop the kids from being brainwashed by the algorithms. They really should ban everyone, especially the elderly.

[-] kossa@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Yep, I hope they fine the shit out of Musk and looking forward to his take that Australia must be dissolved and, idk, given back to its natives.

[-] eli@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

They should just ban social media in general. There's zero reason for it to exist and it's been a detriment to society since it's inception. Like cigarettes, zero purpose other than addiction.

[-] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

"Social media" ban would include also lemmy, that you are using to write your comment.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Well, bye I guess lol.

[-] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 32 points 3 days ago

I mean, I am 100% pro-freedom of access and speech and all, but tbf anything that super murders social media is a net positive to the world at this point, until it's less harmful and addictive.

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[-] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 69 points 3 days ago

Honestly it feels like you should regulate how Facebook can interact with children instead of the children's access to it

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[-] Michal@programming.dev 44 points 3 days ago

The ban also affects everyone who isn't willing to undergo the age check.

Kids will find a way around is. They'll move to fediverse, and the cooler kids will still hang around the mainstream platforms thanks to their older friend, sibling or cool uncle.

[-] harmbugler@piefed.social 19 points 3 days ago

The ban also affects everyone handing over their ID to websites. Now your personal info can get more easily stolen and you can also be tracked better.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

This is the whole point, kids are an excuse as always.

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[-] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago

One parent said their daughter was “completely addicted” to social media

Have you tried parenting her?

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[-] RonniePickering@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Ban it all, its a plague on civilization!

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[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Parents of children affected by the ban shared a spectrum of views on the policy. One parent told the Guardian their 15-year-old daughter was “very distressed” because “all her 14 to 15-year-old friends have been age verified as 18 by Snapchat”. Since she had been identified as under 16, they feared “her friends will keep using Snapchat to talk and organise social events and she will be left out”.

Okay, that's really bad. On the one hand, this is like "they don't even card me at the bar", which is opening up a whole can of worms. Either they're passing for older, or they're faking it. As for the kids left behind, it's also "you look too much like a kid to hang" or they simply get left out for not breaking the rules. All this kind of shit used to happen before, only now it's technologically accelerated.

And here I was naively thinking this was going to make everyone stampede back to SMS instead.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Props to Australia for creating a generation of kids with above average tech skills.

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[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago

have a look at who proposed this change and you'll see why it's being done. it's clear as day that this isn't a win for anyone on the internet in Australia

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