If the concern is medications or procedures harmful to a potential pregnancy, why not just ask if they are or have a possibility in being pregnant? Have the woman sign a waiver or some shit if they are that concerned. Some women have PCOS, some women have their ovaries removed, some women have tubal ligation, some women are going through menopause, some women have implantation bleeding. Fact is, periods are confusing and this question doctors ask is invasive, dismissive to other real health concerns, and purely stupid. Anyone that interested in my menstrual cycle is creepy as fuck.
Have you tried losing weight?
Omg. This is so accurate.
"Doctor! I'm bleeding right here and now!"
*writing down* "last period: today"
PSA: Don't scroll down to the comments.
^ Enjoy funny comic ^
The overwhelming amount of people that don’t understand why this is a medically necessary thing to ask, somehow has to correlate with the complete lack of nuanced debate to be found here.
I’ll break it down simply;
IF A WOMAN IS PREGNANT- X-RAYS CAN DAMAGE A FETUS. IF A WOMA DOESN'T KNOW SHES PREGNANT- A MENSTRUAL CYCLE CAN INDICATE THAT A TEST MAY BE WISE BEFORE POTENTIALLY KILLING HER UNBORN FETUS.
also:
CERTAIN MEDICATIONS CAN KILL OR SEVERELY DAMAGE THE HEALTH OF AN UNBORN FETUS.
therefore we can summarize by saying:
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS ARE TRAINED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS PRIOR TO PERFORMING POTENTIALLY HARMFUL PROCEDURES OR ADMINISTERING POTENTIALLY HARMFUL MEDICATIONS.
Now, is it safe to assume we understand why they don’t ask men this question?
Ever notice how stupid people sound when they can only understand things literally?
It's like the "is it plugged in?" thing. There is a reason it keeps getting asked.
I have a rebuttal:
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT A THEORETICAL FETUS? FIX THE FUCKING ARM THAT IS BLEEDING OUT YOU FUCKSTICK PURITANICAL ASSHOLE.
Looks like you misunderstood both the comic and the person you reacted to. Neither one is actually about a woman getting shot in the arm, that's just hyperbole for comedic effect.
This is about this question being asked in all sorts of situations and conditions where the doctor asks about pregnancy status before administering treatment.
That's the thing they are not asking about pregnancy status. They are asking when their last period was. These are two very different questions, one treats the woman as a person and the other treats her as a walking incubator that you have to check the dials on.
You do know of the concept that women can be pregnant without them realizing or without them acknowledging it?
It's like asking someone whether they have worms. They might know, but they might also not know. They might even know and not tell you.
All of that can be circumvented with a different question.
So you can choose to be offended by a question that they are actually legally required to ask, or you can understand that the main purpose of a doctor (or other medical personell) is not polite dinner conversation but actually assessing the situation to give appropriate treatment.
Doctors are not legally required to ask. And, barring any interventions from a supernatural being, a woman who has never had sex or hasn't had sex in a long time cannot get pregnant. Also, women who had hysterectomies can't get pregnant. Yet when these women tell doctors that there's no chance they can be pregnant the doctor barrels on saying "yeah but when is your last period?" it is simply an insult to their intelligence and bodily autonomy. You have entirely too much faith in doctors and their "knowledge and integrity". Doctors are human beings and they are just as fallible as everybody else. And continually asking questions that annoy your patients is not good bedside manner.
And though it's true that a woman can be pregnant and not know it, they are also capable of understanding that they can't possibly be pregnant. Because they I've been living with their own bodies longer than doctors have been asking them questions about them.
If a doctor doesn't ask and it turns out the patient is pregnant and the treatment harms the embryo, the doctor is liable for the damages. If she or he doesn't want to be liable, she or he needs to ask the question.
I know someone who had her ovaries removed and was sure she couldn't get pregnant anymore. Turns out, for some reason the ovary removal wasn't complete, a small scrap of ovary was missed, and she got pregnant.
Also it sadly does totally happen that women have had intercourse without them realizing. Look up e.g. Gisèle Pelicot.
And lastly, ask how many women are positive that their contraception is in place and working perfectly and can surely never get pregnant but who still end up getting pregnant.
There are women who carry a baby to completion and only realize at birth that they happened to be pregnant for a full 9 months.
Yes, most women know their own bodies. But some do not. And as a doctor not asking is about as smart as putting your hand into a random strangers dogs mouth because most dogs are well-trained and will not bite your hand off.
Great way to end up with a medical malpractice lawsuit.
Yup! Replied the same thing!
For this hypothetical comic situation yes they should fix the uncontrolled bleeding first before anything else. But to contradict myself looks like the bleeding is controlled.
Potentially the future mother? If she cares, then the doctor sure as hell should.
Here's an idea. Before the doctor proceeds with whatever procedure they ask is there any chance you might be pregnant. Instead of the first words out of their mouth upon seeing the patient is a woman being "what is your time of the month?"

This is incorrect. The point of this comic is to illustrate that doctors are incompetent morons when it comes to diagnostic criteria for certain things. It is not literally about evaluating a patient with a gunshot wound who would literally be triaged and immediately taken care of.
You should be embarrassed for thinking this drivel let alone writing it down and publishing it for others to see.
LMAO.
Dude, actual hospital staff has said in the comments here that this is why they ask. It’s routine!
Maybe go white-knight something with easier to overcome ossicles, like… I don’t know- fiction? Because you have no idea what you’re talking about.
GSWs usually require X-rays. Do you know what happens when someone is pregnant and has an X-ray?
Ever seen the shielding worn during one? Ever wonder why it’s necessary?
Do you know what narcotic pain meds can do to a fetus?
Go spread ignorance elsewhere. Medical science says you have no idea what you’re talking about.
You are a right wing level intellect. I hope one day you will figure out that not everything is literal. Your superior never once said this wasn’t something that needed to be checked, because, again, that’s not the point of the comic. Holy smokes.
LMAO… I’m “right wing intellect” because I subscribe to the concept of factual relevance over sensationalism and manufactured outrage?
Strange, it’s doesn’t seem very much like “right wing intellectualism” to me, but I’d wager you call everyone something similar if they disagree with you.
Don’t bother responding. I have you blocked.
Just in case someone who does not deserve to be in prison for stupidity sees this comment, think about what this bottom of the barrel is missing. The point of the comic is not literal, it is to illustrate that medical professionals often do this to women.
There’s another comic where the gunshot victim is complaining and the doctor says “have you tried losing weight?” I’ll bet this worthless sack of dogshit would decide that they were just trying to get a good history.
So, it's an emergency, and doctors are trained to think first about saving the theoretical unborn fetus, instead of focusing on the hemorrhage of a woman that somehow made it to the doctor after she got shot by some delinquent? Is that what you're trying to say? I don't wonder why people don't understand, but I find the comic funny, bitter funny.
Cynical answer: They're worried about the malpractice case if the woman miscarries because of something they did.
More realistic answer: I don't think it's so much trained to first think about the potential fetus, as much as if there's no emergency and the only difference between potentially causing a miscarriage / deformity and not doing so is a few questions, why not ask them? If she was on a gurney being rushed into the ER it would be one thing, but if she's ambulatory and has the time for the subsequent urine test, better safe than sorry?
Most realistic answer: It's a funny comic about the level of dismissal many women feel when dealing with doctors. Laugh bitterly, share with a friend, and try not to worry about what assholes on the Internet think.
Well, to be pendantic. She's walked into the office on her own, is fully alert and doesn't appear to be bleeding much. Next steps would be an xray and likely then surgery - both of which it's crucial to know if the patient is pregnant.
And how do you know it's a delinquent that shot her? Seems judgey.
If you are pregnant it can wildly affect your lab results, too.
Counterpoint- she is missing a semicircular chunk of flesh half her arm's diameter, without massive bleeding, and still somwhow alive. Only way I can think of that working is every artery connecting to her arm being severed,
and wasting time asking about her period can wait till they figure out if shes going to die from internal bleeding while answering questions.
Counterpoint, it’s a fucking exaggerated cartoon.
NO
As WalrusDragonOnABike so perfectly put it:
Its satirizing the tendency for doctors to be more dismissive of women having pain than men, for example. This would be more of a problem with non-visible causes of pain, especially ones that predominantly effect women such as chronic migraines. This comic extrapolates this to comedic effect by using a gunshot wound instead.
AND
I love how a 4 panel comic about dismissal of women’s medical concerns is getting multiple commentors who want to dismiss those problems because a 4 panel comic doesn’t explicitly go into the a specific nuance they are focused on. Plenty of people get the punchline just fine without it.
It's not about pregnancy. It's about dismissing pain and blaming symptoms on hormones.
I have more sources. They're bookmarked. Does anyone need them or do we get it yet?
So it’s just badly written then
But yea it seems like your interpretation is correct, though the extreme amount of exaggeration in the comic made it less understandable
It's not the exaggeration that makes it badly written and controversial, it's using the period question as a stand in for dismissal. Both things can be true: it is a good thing for med pros to ask this question AND doctors routinely discount women's concerns AND this comic combines the two which is generating lots of discussion here.
It is even less obvious that this comic would want to target both
Yeah, that comic is pretty badly written, jumbling together to many things to make a clear point while using extreme hyperbole to obfuscate its actual meaning even more.
Tbh, doctors (like anyone working any job) tend to fall into a pattern-matching routine quite often. My son has a chronic condition that required quite a few hospital stays over his life. Even though my son is not a woman and doesn't get periods, there have been quite a few situations where doctors didn't take him or us (both my wife and me) serious and/or were stuck in automatic mode.
One example (of many): We are in hospital, my son is there as an inpatient. He was maybe a year old at this time and sleeping in his bed. Nurse comes in and routinely checks his temperature with a forehead thermometer. It reads as 42°C (107.6°F) and the nurse panics and immediately sprints out of the room to get temperature reducing medicine. While she's gone I touch his forehead and it doesn't even remotely feel warm. I take the thermometer and check the temperature a few times and it always reads as 37°C (98.6°F) every time, so totally fine. She comes back with a syringe filled with medicine and I say "Stop, he doesn't have high temperature". She ignores me and moves to inject the medicine anyway, and I quickly pull out the thermometer to show her the temperature, telling her again to stop. Finally she relents and agrees to check the temperature again, which she does a few times and realizes he doesn't have any fever after all.
Turns out, my son was hooked up to pre-heated oxygen, and apparently when she first took his temperature, she must have accidentally touched the oxygen hose with the thermometer, and the oxygen hose is preheated to 42°C.
I have numerous similar stories.
(That's not to say that this problem doesn't affect women more, but that the underlying problem is a human problem, not an anti-women problem. Women have more complex physiology, so it does make sense that they are a victim of something like that more often. But the underlying issue is not that doctors hate/dismiss women, but that doctors dismiss everyone whenever they have a plausible chance to do so. With issues like that it's important to focus on the actual problem at hand, because that usually has a different and better solution.)
We need more staff and less stress but we live in a capitalist society :(
Huh…I thought the joke was the doctor didn’t care about the mugging or the gunshot, skipped those questions and when right to periods.
I didn’t see it implied in the comic that the question should never be asked….or anything about men.
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