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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by FallenWalnut@lemmy.world to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

I shared a version of this guide earlier this year, but felt a website was needed to unpack the different options fully. So after an unreasonable number of hours, I put together the necessary data and website.

I hope this is digestible enough for the average person to help those looking to take that first step, or for people who are equally passionate and want to get their friends or family involved.

Details:

Every time I post these guides, there is always feedback on things that can improve, or I got wrong. Please do share, as it is the best way for these to evolve!

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[-] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

Where are the password managers? When changing your accounts to another email provider, this is a really good time to also make sure all the accounts have a strong, unique password or phrase.

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

That is true; I am planning to do Password Managers next, but can see now why it would have made sense to include them sooner.

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[-] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago
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[-] ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

In your guide, Proton's services have the EU flag, but the company is Swiss.

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It is supposed to represent a European company. But will update it as it is confusing.

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[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 days ago

I stopped looking at it after initial glance, seeing the top line, the browsers.

Vivaldi?

Really.

No.

what's wrong with vivaldi? they're european. they have zero ai in their browser. and they're one of the few browser with a build in ad/tracker blocker that supports adblock filters.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Probably because it's another browser based on Chromium.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

That's not a justification to make it closed source. Brave is open source and based on chromium.

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 days ago

Yup. Or any of many other examples, all the way to qutebrowser.

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 days ago

That does not help, but is a side matter.

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[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is me, but i did it in reverse. Once windows was behind me it kind of opened up the door to more change. Took me less than a year to arrive at not using my google account at all.

[-] gwl 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

leaving big tech

Firefox is big tech

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[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Great guide! Very useful for people discovering a world outside of the GAFAM’s.

I’ve done everything, but leaving Whatsapp is the most difficult one. I use Threema and Signal with my close friends, but I can’t get rid of Whatsapp because of many groups I have to follow but I’m not close enough to people to ask them to switch.

I’d love it if these two chat services proposed a separate app which would be interoperable with Whatsapp.

Yes Meta would still get some of my data, but less than if I had Whatsapp directly.

Also getting Whatsapp business and setting an automatic answer asking people to contact me through mail, sms or other chats is useful.

Leaving youtube is also difficult as Peertube is lacking non tech content like basketball..

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[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i thought you had stopped recommending protonmail and spotify but i see now both are back (spotify not in this image, but (with caveats) on your website).

i see you've been making these images for many years and obviously put a lot of time in to it - i assume that like most other ethical consumerism campaigns you must have some funding for it? (from who?)

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[-] trevor 9 points 3 days ago
[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Sorry, I did include that on the website https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/software/49nBOpWnyCdLNGVJ71k6SJ/ - but forgot to update the guide.

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago
[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A more recent one on lemmy.word as well :) I've been at this for a long time and as you can see, it has come a long way since that first version. https://lemmy.world/post/28524939

[-] JayFonduh@lemmy.org 5 points 3 days ago

Thank you! Fuck Google!!!

[-] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

What about https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ ?

Doesn't that already serve the same purpose? ... without also recommending to use a closed source browser as Vivaldi like you are doing instead?

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[-] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago

What stumped me is that YouTube music and apple music are the starting point, and not Spotify.

Also isn't using your own Mailserver with your own domain on any webhoster plus Thunderbird a viable alternative? I've been doing this for like 20 years. That's the beauty of email imo

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[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

What’s wrong with Safari?

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

how do I take multiple emails and consolidate them into one ? thats the biggest thing preventing me from degoogling gmail

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Thunderbird can do something like this! It's called 'Unified folders' on desktop and 'Unified Inbox' on mobile I think? But essentially it takes all your inboxes and makes them into a single folder.

[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

you should never use "just one" email. I would find a service that you can have one main account and have a a few aliases.

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

That's cool and all but that doesn't solve my issue of not wanting to use 6+ Gmail accounts, I need to consolidate their inboxes or I can't move away from Gmail

[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

When you select a new email provider check to see if they have a migration tool. For example, I use spacemail and they have this: https://www.spaceship.com/business-email/migrate-business-email/

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

how do

Not entirely sure of your situation. So you have 6+ Gmail accounts and want a service that can import them into a single account?

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I could probably look into it but more so hoping anyone has any ideas or experience as to consolidate the inboxes (keeping incoming emails) into 1 inbox or whatever other strategy would work

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

That's how aliases work. Pretty much all of the services listed here - https://purchasewithpurpose.io/category/email/ - have them. You can have multiple email addresses, but yet they all go to the same inbox.

As a strategy to minimize your effort in the migration, start by forwarding all your Gmail accounts to the corresponding inbox and/or alias. You can then start using the new service right away and take as long as you need to migrate your accounts across.

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks to you I was able to forward all incoming stuff from Gmail into aliased inboxes

cheers

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Glad to hear you came right! Most new email providers have an onboarding process to help with this. Feel free to post on https://lemmy.world/c/PurchaseWithPurpose if you ever get stuck.

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Perfect, so there is a way to forward incoming emails right?

I wasn't thinking of aliases but using aliases as the address to forward to is pretty smart

[-] ApertureUA@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

Gotta love promoting Electron slop like Element right next to stuff claiming sustainability

[-] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Why avoid Safari if it’s one of the browsers with best privacy rating?

[-] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Safari isn't open source. They could in theory add a backdoor anytime and it would be more difficult to audit.

[-] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

WebKit is open source, Safari is just a front end for it.

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