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[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 84 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I read through the article. Apparently the studio shared work-in-progress content to prove it wasn't made using AI.

I don't know if they used AI or not, but this type of thing has been happening since the inception of gen AI. Shortly after the release of Stable Diffusion 1.5, moderators of r/Art were banning people who had been around for years because their art suddenly "looked like A.I." and told they should "Get a better art style."

In the intervening time, this type of thinking has spread. Just yesterday, I was watching a YouTube video, and they used a certain background in it which they had used before to no note. This time, however, one user claimed that background was A.I. That was all it took to send the comments into a deluge of hatred and accusations.

Here, though... I ask, if work-in-progress PSDs showing the in-progress art don't meet the burden of proof to sate these accusations, what does? How long will it be until the only safe form of art to avoid these accusations is a photo of a pencil sketch with a hand-written date nearby?

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago

I hate how I personally have gotten suspicious of certain aesthetics after the flood of AI tools.

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 points 5 days ago

the cool thing here is you can, you know, do something about your own biases

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think you're missing the point here a little. This bias towards being critical of where something is from is entirely justified. The reality is, there's more gen AI content out there than ever before, and if you're not questioning things constantly, things will slip past.

I'm viewing this kind of like a "phobia" vs a "fear". If you're genuinely in danger of being mislead by AI slop, then having a paranoia about it is perfectly rational.

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 4 days ago

This bias towards being critical of where something is from is entirely justified.

it's funny how that argument is exactly the same one people use to justify racism. seeing as how the dev provided proof it wasn't AI generated, the argument is just as fucking stupid in this context as it it with racists.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 points 4 days ago

AI has had very measureable negative effects on society in the last several years. Someone's race doesn't have any relation to if they're good or bad, which is why being racist is irrational and stupid. It's not the same argument.

In terms of art, it's the difference between being critical of all art because AI slop is common in general (what I've been talking about as rational paranoia) vs only being critical of one specific style because you don't like it and label all of it as bad AI (maybe the analogy for racism you're talking about).

[-] Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Agreed, this is pretty annoying for me personally.

I don't even mind ML generated art in certain contexts if there is disclosure.

I honestly couldn't tell that from the video that the art is ML gen based and I feel like I have a relatively well developed sense for both LLM output and ML gen'd images.

[-] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago

The "work-in-progress" video proof in question basically showed some interface similar to a video editing program with assets popping in like layers, i.e. no actual drawing or concepts or anything.

Your point is very valid, but it also reads like you haven't seen the proof -- which, if anything, was even more of a nail to the coffin.

[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

I haven't seen the proof myself. I searched and couldn't find it. The article above mentioned that they shared PSDs, so I assumed that was confirmation enough that they actually released PSD files of the work in progress.

[-] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

clearly you just wrote this comment with ai… only ai would hyphenate “work-in-progress”.
disgusting….
~/s~

[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

Ever seen that horror movie where the hand gets possessed? It's like that but my hand is AI.

[-] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago
[-] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 28 points 5 days ago

"Goonswarm games"

/me an EVE Online Player feeling kinda suspicious and not that surprised by the allegations.

[-] allo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago

type 1: EXTREME SUSPICION THINK EVERYTHING IS AI GENERATED. Thrash wildly when presented all images, audio, text, and movies in a desparate attempt to prove whether it's ai and should thus be shunned and hated.

type 2: not really care

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I don't mind AI as long as it's filtered through humans. Like don't just generate something and ship it directly to the consumer. Use AI generated content as a stepping off point for what you want to create.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 7 points 5 days ago

Most visual art I consume I'm not getting anything out of it that is diminished if it were not created by human hand.

It's mostly comics and "cool shit" and AI images are just as capable of being the illustration of a cool story. And the same rules apply - if a real artist draws wonky proportions or an extra finger, it might look a bit off but probably doesn't bother the viewer much as long as it's not all the time.

There are other situations where AI or any kind of simulation of humanity doesn't work. An ai generated story won't have the same kind of emotional connection, for example.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Watch out, you might trigger the AI haters.

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I don't see anything to suggest AI was used in the making of the game, but I also don't see anything that suggests it was going to be a good game. So it may not have taken much pressure to get them to fold.

[-] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 11 points 5 days ago

Why should we care about the tools they use? Results are important.

[-] Larry@lemmy.zip 71 points 5 days ago

Because that tool was built by committing the largest IP theft in history. Not to mention the loss of jobs, the waste of water, waste of energy, spiking hardware prices, potential to dumb down all future generations.

But yeah, just a tool, same as wrench...

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

“But if we don’t do it, they will. And then they will win.”

[-] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 7 points 5 days ago

IP theft

People learn in the same way

the waste of water, waste of energy,

People consume that too. Even while not working.

dumb down all future generations

Human specialists also let other people stop being specialists. When did specialisation become the norm? In the early paleolith? Earlier?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

People consume that too. Even while not working.

That's not a waste, though. I'd want them around even they weren't working.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 days ago

Along with the other comment, it's also soulless. Not that the postal series had much in the way of artistry to begin with, even that series is still more artistic than anything generated by a program.

[-] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 7 points 5 days ago

soulless

I am an engineer, not a priest. I don't understand this terminology.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 43 points 5 days ago

I don’t understand this

That much is abundantly clear.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

Our degrees didn't rob us of the ability to understand metaphor - that's just you.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago
[-] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

I do not believe that you think results are the only thing that matter, methods be damned. I think you do have a line you would draw somewhere. The rest of us simply draw ours in a different place than you do.

[-] ideonek@piefed.social 6 points 5 days ago

Fuck this site and their forced redirections.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Vapid anti-AI hate can cause quite a lot of damage. And what for? To feel like you're superior to everyone that you can spot all the AI errors?

Sure, shame a company for AI use if it's obviously bad or you have actual proof. But just guessing because you think it's AI is pretty shitty.

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 points 3 days ago

The strong feedback from them is that elements of the game are very likely AI-generated and thus has caused extreme damage to our brand and our company reputation.

These are not the words of a company who didnt know about the ai use. They hired them because they were gonna use ai so it would be cheap to produce, fans were rightfully upset to be fed slop, publisher backpedals so hard they close the studio.

You think if they didnt use ai here they'd do all that? Or would they instead say "we are sorry the quality doesn't appeal and we will work on it" not this

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