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“Huh well that seems to not have any basis in the physical at all and yet it exists”
Observed particles behave different.
No they don't. Or, maybe, depending on what you mean by "observed". A consciousness doesn't have to be involved in any case.
Double slit experiment?
"observing" means interacting with.
Of course interacting with something changes how it behaves. It's in the name.
Still works if the electron is a wave the whole time. You just get a detector and a physicist in multiple states as well. That's the multiple worlds interpretation.
There's a bunch of other models, like collapse existing, but being caused by size or gravity. Collapse by consciousness is a "possibility" really only pseudoscientists are selling. I think OP mentioned Chopra.
The Dual Slit Experiment doesn't actually work that way
I think it is possible, logically at least, to have gods, free will and souls even if everything were physical matter, unless you define those terms specifically to be metaphysical but then its like a True Scotsman fallacy.
Physicalism might be the most viable, but that does not mean its viable enough. There are huge holes - we have no explanation for consciousness, sentience, free will, physics still doesn't explain everything physical, and quantum mechanics is such a weird aberration of physical matter I am tempted to not call it that.
However, nothing beats the scientific method for truth finding at the moment. And, at the moment, the scientific method is content with only giving us physical results.
I mean, taking a stance that living beings have no consciousness, sentience or free will totally distinct from inanimate objects would be the simplest hypothesis, and is also what the models predict.
"Has anyone found a viable alternative to falsifiable hypotheses?"
Basically, there's a little wiggle room left in our current model of the universe, but not much, and absolutely nothing close to human-scale. Dualism is nowhere to be found - we can observe the mind breaking or operating physically - and Idealism better be indistinguishable from materialism to work.
I hear that “Oh actually the science is moving away from materialism” as well, but that seems to be more crystal talk as well.
Yep. The grain of truth here is that materials at really small scale look quite different. At small scale, and in a specific, rigorously defined way. I don't want your crystals or dog THC, Karen.
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