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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by bluemoon@piefed.social to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I'm one of those hipsters who doesn't use streaming services.

I did, a while ago, but I quit using them because the experience is kind of awful, and I'm happier now for it. I collect physical media and watch it using Jellyfin on my Linux-based home theater PC, and I'm completely satisfied with how it works.

I'm making this video because I am really troubled by algorithmic helplessness, and I feel like corporate-centralized streaming media makes that worse. Maybe this video will encourage someone else to cut the cord and rediscover an appreciation for owning your media and being choosy about what to "watch next". Or maybe I'm just wasting time. Who knows? I suppose, you know, you're reading this description, right?

If you read the description, say "algorithmic helplessness sucks" in the comments. That'll make me feel better.

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[-] paper_moon@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The thing I hated about Netflix was the stress of knowing i was being watched with my viewing habits and that affected how they decided to cancel or continue shows.

Imagine being a customer at a restaurant and the chef is in the back watching you eat, saying things like:

"well, if he doesn't eat the whole thing in less than 10 minutes that means he probably hated it and won't continue to buy more burgers, so we should just remove it from the menu now and never serve that burger again."

Who the fuck wants to 'relax' and watch stuff when i know if I start watching something and stop after episode 1 because I liked it, realize my partner might also like it, and I wait 3 months to watch it together (not within their 30 day or whatever window), knowing that might contribute to Netflix canceling a show that I fucking liked in the first place!

SO RELAXING GUYS!

So no, I don't stream stuff anymore. I'm sick of paying for content that constantly gets canceled, and also experiencing stress while doing so.

[-] Meron35@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Side note, the restaurant analogy is exactly why I hate the seemingly American style of service where the waiter asks how the food is halfway through.

I guess that's a good analogy for how creepy surveillance capitalism is, it's like a waiter judging and recording your every move and reaction throughout the entire meal.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 22 hours ago

I'm not sure where you're eating, but wait staff ask that so they can correct any issues before it impacts their tip, not because they're keeping tabs on you.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

American style of service where the waiter asks how the food is halfway through

So that's what's going on! I was wondering why people are doing that everywhere I eat out all of a sudden. Bloody annoying. Me with a mouth full of food having to force out a "yhh shh rlly gwwd tnnk yww".

Gtfoutahurr

[-] chocosoldier 1 points 8 hours ago

Me with a mouth full of food having to force out a “yhh shh rlly gwwd tnnk yww”.

just thumbs up if its good, or hold up one finger until you finish chewing if you want something. sounds like more an issue with your table manners than anything tbh. sheesh.

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

just one of the many negatives of tip culture

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

I'm not tipping. I refuse to adopt that culture as well. I'll literally die on that hill. Workers deserve a wage, not to depend on people's good graces like beggars wiping car windows.

[-] chocosoldier 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

then don't eat at places with tipped workers, you're not discouraging anything by stiffing people.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean... that IS how restaurants work. If people don't order the fish of the day then they buy fewer and fewer fishes until it is no longer a thing. Even the speed people eat DOES matter since restaraunts tend to be designed around each customer spending a certain amount of time dining. Too short and they will never order a dessert. Too long and they are costing you money while they nurse that coffee.

And similar happens with even buying blu-rays. If nobody bought Master and Commander in 4k then you can be sure that experiment would be over. Instead? That thing sold like toiler paper during COVID and we'll likely see more "prestige" releases with a huge dose of FOMO.

As for up fronts versus long tails? Guess what is motivating all those revivals "nobody asked for"?

Don't get me wrong. I vastly prefer to rip blu rays to my NAS and watch via plex. But the idea that you are somehow no longer part of the marketing cycle is just... wrong.

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This video was what convinced me to start up a Jellyfin server last month. It's fantastic. The peace of mind knowing that I have all my media stored locally, forever, is so satisfying.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 22 points 1 day ago

I mean, forever might be too strong of a word.

Well, how about "for as long as I maintain the hardware"?

[-] NullCypher@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Or you accidentally delete it and have no backups because "this would never happen to me" until it does.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

I'm all for this, but acquiring the media outside of streaming services in the first place is difficult, likely by design. There's no GOG for movies and TV; there's not even a Steam. My wife is basically permanently subscribed to Peacock because she loves Law and Order: SVU, to the point that she basically has the whole series on loop while she knits. I started looking this time last year into how to self-host all that, but I didn't even get to the point of finding out what Jellyfin is before I realized that it was impossible to legally acquire all the seasons on Blu Ray or even DVD. They want me to either subscribe to Peacock or buy a "digital copy", which is just rental streaming by another name. I'm not a skilled enough pirate to know that my ISP isn't going to mind my activity, and being a skilled pirate isn't even something I'm interested in being. Plus, my past experiences with piracy is that beggars can't be choosers, and the bit rate could be awful, or it would have huge watermarks from whatever Canadian channel the pirate recorded from, and that's not a great experience when it's supposed to be a gift anyway.

Unlike the video author, I'm not even bothered by algorithmic recommendations for media. I actually like it. The main reason I want to self host my media is because I don't watch so much of it that a subscription price makes sense very often. If my wife and I are just watching the same couple of things over and over again, why do I need a buffet of content I'm not going to watch at monthly subscription prices?

[-] TurdBurgler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is why the seedbox SaaS market exists. Providing turn key hosted solutions, the only heavy lifting is the configuration which takes some reading to understand.

Check out the Servarr Wiki, Ombi, Syncthing as a starting point for media discovery and curration tooling.

[-] bluemoon@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago

yeah okay well your watchparties are increasingly going to get worse until you too hit your threshold: such is the business.

the rest of the world uses a VPN like MullvadVPN and qBittorrent to "digitally back up media we've already bought". without ads, in better quality, without telemetry, without serfdom-subscriptions. you may like AI offloading your decisionmaking, but keep doing it and you will be codependent on authority for choosing anything in life. what do you want in a cozy moment away from work? it frustrates me to read people are too anxioys to begin to do otherwise and accept the way things are. that's a rant in return

have a nice day, i won't make this into a chain of replies.

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[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

Netlix does livestreams for camgirls now?

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

I miss the days of people having their own bespoke collection of their favorite movies and shows. Everything is homogenized now. At least when I pirate, I'm still building my own personal media library. And I never have to worry about the show I like being removed later.

But I'm not gonna lie. The quality drop off in content caused by streaming services I think is a bigger issue

Netflix activity tries to make content that's not actually good enough to watch without browsing a phone. Second screen content, they call it. And I guarantee someone in a finance role realized they could make way more by doing just enough to keep people, rather than try to actively create amazing content, because it's soo much cheaper to not pay for good writers, or good set designers or actors when you could just find someone who's good enough. I think it's because the money people spend is recurring, linked to the service as a whole, and not linked to the individual work.. users have to vote by watching now, and some of the best stuff I've ever seen is also some of the least watched.

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