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Italy now recognizes the crime of femicide and punishes it with life in prison (apnews.com)

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Italy’s parliament on Tuesday approved a law that introduces femicide into the country’s criminal law and punishes it with life in prison.

The vote coincided with the international day for the elimination of violence against women, a day designated by the U.N. General Assembly.

The law won bipartisan support from the center-right majority and the center-left opposition in the final vote in the Lower Chamber, passing with 237 votes in favor.

The law, backed by the conservative government of Premier Giorgia Meloni, comes in response to a series of killings and other violence targeting women in Italy. It includes stronger measures against gender-based crimes including stalking and revenge porn.

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I don't see how the femicide part makes any sense or difference. There were already the exact same punishments for killing of anyone, so isn't this essentially copy pasting existing laws but with a specific group highlight? If that's the case, it will do absolutely nothing.

The second part is fine, though I hope it's meant for everyone and not just women. I don't know about Italy specifically, but in many European countries if you fall victim to these crimes as a man, you'll likely receive no help.

Would be great to see some more protections for everyone, as well as more serious punishments for violations against anyone. Making anything like this gender-specific will just fuel already problematic anti-other-gender sentiment.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

inequity is real.

If each and every person should matter then It should be ok to recognize each and every person for what they are being targetted for. And I see this law as doing just that. It’s recognizing that a person may not be targetted for being an individual but a part of a group. And that is important. So That is taking their individualness into importance by recognizing the group they are being targetted by.

This should be allowed if you’re being legitimately concerned for EVERYONE’S safety here.

people who may be at their job as a sex worker. Or if they are simply female and that in itself could be weaponized against them.

They will face a violent discrimination just as another person fitting into a different group might. And it’s important to recognize that, make that a law, and keep them safe too. So if “Being targetted for”is a law , recognizing group profile is part of that.

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

If you aim for equality, making separate laws for separate genders is not the solution. This is anything but equality. Especially when there are already laws protecting the groups in question, as part of the entire nation. The problem here is completely different and requires different solutions.

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[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I think a better law would be more generic in defining what defined group targeting.

Why only protect one group? How many other divisions will there be?

How balkanized will you make the law when ypu apply it to people?

Will more wealth entitle you to more protections?

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[-] falseWhite@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

It take a certain type of flaw in logic to assume that because a group is “getting” something, it means another group is losing something.

What if one group is getting something unproportionally more than the other.

That creates inequality, essentially meaning that the disadvantaged group is losing something. I.e. they get less that the other group.

So yeah, if you give one group much more than the other, they are losing something.

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[-] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

These comments seem to be full of the same people who misunderstand that the word “racism” describes a massive cultural and societal issue that affects people in large, hidden ways throughout their life, rather than using bad words.

If they had a problem in Italy of men being murdered for not being obedient, it might be worth considering broadening the scope of this classification.

This does not even target the perpetrators as a class (even though we can probably guess a general demographic), just classifies the crime according to what has happened to the victim, and why. This is the same for all hate crimes that are prevalent enough to warrant it. Imo it is the culture and society that makes it a hate crime, not just the intent.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I find it amazing that half the threads on this post I can't open because they're being piled on by people I've already blocked on lemmy. 🙄

Men with sexual insecurity is a driving force of contention and violent politics in this entire world. If you read that special protections are being made for a class of people who are suffering dis-fucking-proportionally and you say "What about meeeeee?" to it, you need to get your shit together. You're not healthy.

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[-] AmericanEconomicThinkTank@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

♡ step in the right direction ♡

[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At this point just make a "hate crime" and misogyny fall under this but NO!

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This post has helped me root out all the shitty piece of shit incels to block on Lemmy. Thank you for this.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 8 points 1 week ago

Too bad that this government also slashed the funds for shelters for women and forbade affective education in primary and middle school. Not to mention cops ignoring calls from women who're being stalked or harassed and not intervening when a man remove his ankle monitor to circumvene a restrictive order.

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'm reading a lot of responses here that seem to rhyme with the "White lives matter!" responses to the BLM movement.

As was the case then, what seems to be getting missed by those saying this is the context. Italy has a major issue with domestic violence, including spousal murder. From the sound of it, it's usually women who are the victims. Thus, a new law to target wife abusers specifically.

There may be some merit to debating whether this is an effective move or not, I'm not up on my research there; but let's not deny that they see a need, and are attempting to address it.

[-] Alfredo_DisguidoAlCazzo@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago

Hi, saying "Italy has a major issue with domestic violence" it's misleading. Compared to what? To Europe? (we are on the lower end of feminicides, and this law try to target this issue). More in general, Italy it's a very safe place and homicides are lower than the average of europe.

Feminicides: https://www.europeandatajournalism.eu/cp_data_news/femicide-remains-all-too-common-in-italy-and-europe/

General intentional homicide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

To further expand: Is it an issue? YES, is it even slightly going towards a resolution with this new law? NOPE. It's just the next new big title from "Governo Meloni", a right wing party that is in charge, will get re-elected but is acting like it's on the opposition.

This is not like the “White lives matter” responses to the BLM movement. If they wanted to increase the "hate crime" or "gender crime" homicides penalties, they could have said something like "to address the feminicides we will be increasing all the hate/gender homicides penalties". But this government hate gays and trans, just love a christian traditional family and slogans (which none of our representatives was able to mantain btw).

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