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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 136 points 6 months ago

They are disabling it because the license cost went up 4 cents? Just pass that cost onto the customer. Even if they mark that up several times, I would rather pay that than have my battery drained because I have to software decode a video.

There is still a lot of H.265 content out there. I have many terabytes of it that I don't want to transcode.

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[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 87 points 6 months ago

synology also did this recently. shit should be illegal.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

that was the final straw for me to switch NAS vendors when I next upgrade.

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[-] riskable@programming.dev 27 points 6 months ago

What should be illegal is patents like this!

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago

From the article:

Last year, NAS company Synology announced that it was ending support for HEVC, as well as H.264/AVC and VCI, transcoding on its DiskStation Manager and BeeStation OS platforms, saying that “support for video codecs is widespread on end devices, such as smartphones, tablets, computers, and smart TVs.”

Well, not anymore lol.

[-] OmegaSunkey@ani.social 86 points 6 months ago
[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 76 points 6 months ago

Yes this is absolutely ridiculous.

This is also a good reason to avoid proprietary codecs. H.265 may be a great codec, but the licensing fees are basically a tax on the world.

The best solution would be an overall switch to AV1. But silicon support for that is not nearly as widespread.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Yeah that’s going to change fucking fast. My game streaming service I build from older parts to cut costs has 1 shiney modern part because of AV1. Just AV1. Nothing else influenced the purchase of that part.

And there is no way a big company made that part just for me.

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 70 points 6 months ago

I don't for a second believe this is about the rising cost. It raised by $0.04. Someone below said that works out to a savings of $600,000.

Alright, but for an individual, it's $0.04.

Just increase the final price by $0.25. You made back your $600,000. Plus whatever $0.21 would equate to as GAINS.

Fuck guys. You suck at business. This is what happens when companies replace their CEO with AI.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 6 months ago

The real key is buried in the middle, where they say hardware decode capabilities are going to be restricted to models with discrete GPUs... Meaning they can make a $500 upsell mandatory for the most basic of capabilities.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Both HP and Dell are partnered with Microsoft, and have been for decades. Isn't a discrete GPU one of the things required for Microsoft Recall ready machines?

There's NO way they broke HEVC just for 4¢. Something else is paying them a lot more, and Recall would be one of those things.

[-] planish@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago
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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The HP 16" EliteBook 665 G11 Notebook costs $1500. That means this $600k "cost cutting" measure starts to decrease revenue if only 400 people buy a laptop from a different brand.

Or even a single person. Someone tasked to purchase 400 laptops for a company, reads this news and decides to get ThinkPads instead...

Sell the CEO private jet if they really need the money

[-] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 6 months ago

Imagine buying a "Pro" laptop that can't even play HEVC videos without software transcoding. This is insane penny pinching and infuriating

[-] hayvan@feddit.nl 60 points 6 months ago

So the hardware is capable, but refuses to work until someone pays for the licensing cost. Yay capitalism bringing innovation!

[-] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’s interesting how the tone of innovation changes. It starts out like “hey, I can do that better than my competitors!” and that’s all fine, doing something better creating market demand and cash influx. But eventually, the innovation looks for shortcuts… enshitification is the word. Cheaper parts, smaller quantities, subscriptions to hardware you buy but never own… There’s a shift from product/service innovation as means to financial growth to purely financially incentivized innovation.

It reminds me of Marx’s idea that concentration of capital naturally leads to the prominence of financial markets, an indicator of a capitalist economy reaching its “advanced” / crisis-prone phase. The similarity being: there’s an economic shift from industrial investment as means to financial growth to purely financial investment.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 56 points 6 months ago

increasing from $0.20 each to $0.24 each in the United States. To put that into perspective, in Q3 2025, HP sold 15,002,000 laptops and desktops

“This is pretty ridiculous, given these systems are $800+ a machine

I wonder how long the list of these fees for one machine is

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's about a $600,000 savings for that quarter, for a company that reported $13.9 billion in revenue for Q3 2025.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago

It would be cruel of us to ask them to only have $13,899,400,000 in revenue that quarter instead of $13,900,000,000

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

Revenue wouldn't change from this, only expenses and profit.

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[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago

Someone was a doing a lot of hard work subtracting big scary numbers in their budget sheet.

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[-] tangeli@piefed.social 52 points 6 months ago

Is it disabled in hardware, firmware or software? Does Linux enable it?

[-] FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago

Reading through a bit it sounds like it works on Linux, not on Windows. Folks are hypothesizing it’s disabled at the ACPI level because different drivers don’t help.

[-] sepi@piefed.social 46 points 6 months ago

Here's two brands I've not touched in decades. Keeping it that way.

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[-] commander@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Dumb of HP and Dell to not eat the cost. Just in the future never support VVC. HEVC is well enough a thing already. Push defaults to be AV1 and then in like 5-7 years, AV2. I use AV1 for everything I can. Computer supports it. My phone does not but edits I do on my PC will be encoded to AV1. Photos, support JPEG-XL but in the interim, AVIF. Screw apple for going with HEIC. I highly doubt that there will be a successor to UHD Blu-Rays to adopt VVC. No big reason to jump to 8k. Only good would be higher bitrates/better compression and audio.

Films are mostly recorded digitally with 4k-6k cameras or a limited amount of 35mm still going on that scans well to around 4k. 8K digital cinema cameras are becoming more common but the 4k-6k ones are dominant and 70mm is expensive and uncommon. Plus significant digital effects are prevalent on even low action movies, non-sci-fi. Those are still going to have been mostly done and mastered for 4k. Another round of remastering required for 8k content where digital or 70mm film masters exists. Dinosaur broadcasters may choose VVC the shrinking world population watching dinosaur broadcasters. AV1 is increasingly the present and AV2 will be the future. VVC will be end of line because of short sighted greed

[-] ranzispa@mander.xyz 18 points 6 months ago

It's clearly a move to make torrent for movies unviable and get funding from Netflix.

[-] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Not until you pull the handbrake at least

[-] ftbd@feddit.org 16 points 6 months ago

How is this done? Can you just re-enable the feature in the BIOS? And what about machines sold outside the US?

[-] gerowen@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Kinda makes me even more glad I've been migrating all my stuff over to AV1/OPUS.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Is that a hardware or software issue? I.e. is it caused by the windows driver for these laptops' graphic units?

Does HEVC work with the Linux drivers on these machines?

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 months ago

No, it’s a licensing issue. H.265 hardware support requires an ongoing license. And HP+Dell don’t want to continue paying licensing fees for PCs they have already sold. So they’re telling customers “get fucked, use a media player with software decoding instead of using hardware acceleration directly in your browser.”

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