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[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 152 points 2 years ago

The worst part is, they're partnering with Tencent.

Telegram is dead.

[-] totallynotfbi@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago

This week, TON Foundation announced that it’s forged a partnership with Tencent Cloud, which has “already successfully supported TON validators and plans to expand its services further to help meet TON’s high compute intensity and network bandwidth needs.” Validators, in web3 lingo, are participants that help authenticate transactions in a blockchain network.

It looks like the partnership with Tencent only extends to their Web3 blockchain thing, and there doesn't seem to be any partnership in the main app so it's not the end of the world - at least, for now.

Also, what even is this TON blockchain? I never knew Telegram had anything to do with crypto :/

[-] fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

Yeah, nah. Anything the CCP can slip it’s slimy festering little dick into, it will.

There’s no way in hell that Telegram is secure.

[-] totallynotfbi@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

I guess, but I don't see how much they can really influence Telegram without any stake in the app itself. They only seem to have a deal for cloud-hosting with the TON Foundation, a non-critical part of the app, and even that appears to be non-exclusive. So if Tencent tries to force a bad decision onto Telegram, what's stopping them from severing ties and moving everything over to another provider?

Of course, we don't know what the situation will be like in the future, but at this present moment, I don't think Telegram's security has been breached by this. (Also I think you triple-posted this comment)

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[-] chi_chan@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 years ago

Telegram is partnering with tencent??

[-] briongloid@aussie.zone 22 points 2 years ago

They are renting server space off a big company, not much different than AWS or Azure.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Except that it is

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

The entire point of E2EE is that it doesn't matter who the host is.

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[-] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 years ago

Telegram is a suprisingly good app.

  • Open source clients
  • Decent Linux client on the laptop (whatsapp desktop is just terrible)
  • It can be downloaded without Google's appstore.

I wish other apps were half as good as Telegram.

[-] EqMinMax@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago
  • More importantly, non-electron app.
[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It bothers me that the major complaint is not the privacy issues or the people who own it behind the scenes...

but the technology used to build the desktop application. Electron is just a tool.

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[-] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago
  • Owned by the Russians

  • Partnered with the ~~CCP~~ Tencent

[-] totallynotfbi@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

Hasn't the founder been a vocal critic of Russia for years, including the Ukraine war? I don't really see why that would be a concern, especially since Telegram is supposedly owned by a US LLC

[-] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Russia has an army of "vocal critics" who play an important role in the pantomime, you see them on RT regularly. It doesn't prove anything.

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[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

a yes, the ceo that isn't on russia and is viewd as a criminal for being against the war?

[-] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

If that's the definition of trustworthy Prigozhin was a saint

[-] 601error@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

Prigo was definitely not against the war.

[-] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

"the russians" is the new "the jews" but for liberals, right?

[-] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Better than being owned by Americans.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why does it need to be owned by anyone? There are chat protocols that are public knownleage.

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[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago

Telegram has the best clients ever. But those clients need to connect to something and this is where we encounter a big problem.

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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 44 points 2 years ago

The shitty forced "stories" did me question seriously this once wonderful app. If I'd want to look at crappy TikTok-like shorts from other people, I'd be on TikTok.

[-] weedazz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I had the same worry when it happened to signal

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Signal has stories as well?

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

Inexplicably, yes. It does

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago

Hmm, should we add the ability to register from desktop easily? Nah, let's just add stories)

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Once I saw the stories I was like ok wtf. How do I turn this off?

Maybe revanced manager can do it.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

I'm using Nekogram, that at least allows to automatically hide (archive) them.

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 17 points 2 years ago

I was under impression that Google Play and Apple App Store don't allow apps that can do practically everything (super apps). Is it really allowed? If a completely new company submit a chat app that somehow includes taxy hailing, food delivery, nfc/qr wallet and micro-loan features all at once instead of adding those features gradually in future updates, would Apple and Google accept the app?

[-] friendlyhobo@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

WeChat and other composite apps are already on the stores, so I don’t see why others also wouldn’t be allowed.

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[-] figaro@lemdro.id 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Everyone complaining about both telegram and signal here should, idk, just start dead dropping handwritten notes to people inside of dead rats, like the true privacy experts.

Privacy is important, yes. But if all of my friends use telegram, I'm going to use it too. Not only that, I'm going to be happy about it, because the telegram app is 1000x better than pretty much any other messaging app.

braces for angry downvotes

[-] PlushySD@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

You don't understand, when it's only you in that platform, it's the ultimate privacy.

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[-] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It does have a ton of functions tbh. I use it to access bots and keep notes. Even repositories for apps - Revanced Extended uses it for e.g. !

[-] sndrtj@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago

Telegram is rarely used in my country anyway.

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