I'll switch when it fucking saves session data. It's still not ready for mainstream.
I still use X11 & will continue to do so for as long as possible. Wayland's not bad, X11 just seems to works better....
It really just boils down to what you're trying to do. Which is why choice is good, as always
Yeah, so, switching to wayland still break copy/paste from terminal apps, still requires me to disable all hardware acceleration lest firefox freeze and plasma's effects are visually broken, and it randomly swap my screen on each boot.
Meanwhile, no issue at all on X. I'll still wait a bit.
I will happily switch over once libinput isn't absolute ass with my touchpad! Or if I could adjust its settings in any meaningful way!! Or if you could let me use my old touchpad driver!!!
Until then you can attempt to pry x11 from my cold undead still-animated hands
I just need xdotool. ydotool is missing almost everything. I don't need programs sandboxed from each other. I don't need that multi-DPI stuff (200% scaling works fine in X). Wayland doesn't provide any features I'm missing.
I just don't want to switch out my window manager and all the helper programs that make it work as a full desktop. Currently I just use LXQt+i3wm, and LXQt will take quite a while until it's anywhere near feature parity with Wayland, and AFAIK i3wm doesn't even have plans for a Wayland port (though I know that there's decently similar tiling WMs for Wayland). I don't think any of the oldschool low-resource-intensity desktop environments I'd consider using have a decently feature-complete Wayland port right now.
It's possible that it's not actually that much work to cobble together a new configuration with a Wayland-compatible tiling WM and a bunch of separate applications for screenshots, clipboard management etc., but I currently don't care to find out.
Sway is build to he a drop in replacement for i3
Idk, especially when using the most recent version of Wayland compositors, it's been great. Solved my display and touchpad issues.
I did have some Nvidia issues but that shouldn't be surprising regardless of display protocol.
But like... use whatever software you want. Worst case you can always just nest a minimal Wayland compositor like cage or gamescope in your X session.
Yeah I tried it for XFCE yesterday*, noticed a few things I wanted weren't there (because XFWM isn't ported over) and promptly switched back. Didn't seem to me like it was more responsive or anything like that**.
But I am still using a 1050Ti, so who knows. That also kind of kills my interest in the idea even if I didn't have fixed-if-you-use-this-specific-DE type issues. I also don't really like the idea of CSD.
* after looking up that labwc not being installed was why the session wouldn't launch before
** entirely possible it is better in very specific scenarios, but the screen tearing that I see on X11 is diagonal (like the screen is 2 triangles, desynced) and honestly I don't even know the exact game to test (as I don't see tearing in videos or any other usage as far as I know)
The older you get the more unnatural new tech feels
Wayland changes the core ideas behind the desktop
I prefer Wayland over X11, but Cinnamon doesn't support it yet as stable
Last time I tried Wayland (with Cinnamon), it didn't support any keyboard layouts other than American. That's a bit of a deal breaker if you're not American.
That's what happens when you use an experimental feature that is actively being developed and receiving improvements over time. Transitioning an X11 stack to Wayland is not as simple as flipping on a build flag.
Keyboard support has been implemented and will arrive in 22.3:
Wayland support
Under the hood, the Cinnamon keyboard handling relied on libgnomekbd and only worked in Xorg.
This meant that Cinnamon under Wayland could only be used with an English (US) layout.
This new support is fully compatible with Wayland for both traditional layouts and IBus input methods.
Cinnamon doesn't support Wayland yet.
when endeavour switched over to wayland my session just completely stopped working. couldn't get past the login screen. had to reinstall xorg from tty. not touching that again until i get new hardware.
Problem with Wayland, is the liability of being to not able the use of some software, and not being able to foresee it.
X11 is also working well, and a lot of the "issues" people have with it is more about hearsay than real issues.
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