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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by FirstMajesticComet to c/isogender

One thing I get a lot as an Isogender is people who are confused about what it means or who think it's just trans. I'm going to break down what it means, why we are not trans, or cis for that matter, while also addressing some of the arguments brought up about us (these are arguments I and others have recieved on this).


What does it mean to be Isogender?

Isogender is a gender modality which falls outside of the cis and trans umbrellas, it exists as its own thing. Simply put Isogender is neither cis nor trans. You might be wondering how does that work exactly if cis=AGAB and trans≠AGAB? Well it's slightly different for different people but one explanation I've heard is that AGAB is Irrelevant to people who identify as Isogender.

Personally the way that cis and trans are worded or described these days isn't great in my opinion as it seems to try and remove other options outside of the two. It enforces a binary, under those strict definitions one can either be Cis or Trans with no clear path In-between or neither.


"Isogender is 'technically' trans then because it isn't cis, you're just choosing not to Identify as trans"

Nope it isn't, it is neither cis nor trans, the reason is that we identify as neither. It's based on the idea that the way we identify is valid and determines who we are. Arguing technicality when it comes to a person's identity is very invalidating, as if to say they are wrong about how they identify without directly saying they're wrong.


"Isogender doesn't exist, you're in denial about being trans bc Internalized Transphobia"

Umm... No. If it didn't exist it wouldn't have been coined and it wouldn't have multiple Wiki pages about it. People are free to identify how they feel is comfortable, an trying to argue that their identity or reasons for not identifying as trans aren't valid and that they have transphobia isn't respecting their identity, it's attempting to change their mind by telling them that it is bad or wrong to not identify as trans, or to not feel comfortable identifying as trans.


"It's important to identify as trans even if you are Non-Binary to show that transgender is more than transsexual"

Yeah... No, it's important to identify the way that feels comfortable and correct for you. Gender identities are for the person identifying, not anyone else. You should not, nor should you be expected to identify a particular way for someone else. If it feels right to identify as trans then you can, if it doesn't than you don't have to, that's like the whole point of Isogender and other gender modalities, having options outside of the dichotomy.


"Anyone without Gender Dysphoria is just Cis and wants attention"

Transmedicalism will not be tolerated here under Rule 3 and Rule 4, there is no debate here, transmedicalism is a very hostile and harmful form of gatekeeping. People's identities are Valid and should be respected, transmedicalism fights against that, so it should be treated as the form of Bigotry that it is.


Conclusion

While this may not have covered all basis I did get to touch on what Isogender is, as well as some of the misconceptions and also some of the extremely harmful arguments related to it, and hopefully addressed them so we will not see them posted here out of Ignorance.

I will leave this post up in case people would like to add anything else, or engage in constructive criticism but if there is any significant hostility or attacks the comments may be locked.

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[-] Jentu 3 points 3 weeks ago

I found isogender a couple months ago because, as someone who always identified as nonbinary, there's always been one thing that bothers me- the flag. Yes I'm fully aware of how silly this is, but I have an excess of free time not worrying about fitting within a gender role.

The isogender flag isn't muuuuuch better, but the alternative isogender flag is absolutely gorgeous. So that's the flag I'll be flying if I ever see it for sale anywhere haha

[-] Franzia 2 points 1 year ago

Isogender on LGBTQIA Wiki

Interesting. I have seen many people try to describe and justify to others feeling not cis or trans, and now that I'm familiar with a term for it, even better.

ISO- prefix Etymology

Is this the correct prefix?

So then can this term also mean "halfway between" cis and trans? Closer to one's AGAB?

As opposed to the scenario you've brought up where AGAB is irrelevant, I bet in that case, Isogender would be useful as a descriptor for an Agender person.

[-] FirstMajesticComet 2 points 1 year ago

Yes that is correct. I would say it can also refer to being half-way between cis and trans as well, though Isogender in general really has a much looser connection/dependency on AGAB as a concept.

[-] Zoop@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck yeah, great post! Thank you for this! I feel so seen :)

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A community for all people who identify under the Isogender Umbrella.

Isogender is a gender Modality which refers to when someone does not identify as cisgender or transgender.

Examples of Isogender:

(exerpt from the LGBTQIA Wiki)


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